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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw"Mass produced ale from a brewery that is slowly loosing (if not lost)its independent tag. Wildly available now at a lot of outlets and becoming the John Smiths of the real ale world. Obviously the draw is the price and some folk will supp anything while the smaller independents struggle to keep level at those prices. Weatherspoons also have a habit of keeping their real ale at a temperature that masks the flavours (too cold)Stands back for the wind up
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I had you down as a balanced character, and not one to buy into the anti-Wetherspoons calumny.
As for Abbot it comes as no surprise to see its proliferation. It's good, simple as. Please don't compare it to the vile p/ss that is John's.
As for temperatures, if Wetherspoons don't know about the optimum temperatures for serving beers and lagers, then excuse me.
I'll repeat it. NOBODY has won more casque mark awards than Wetherspoons. So get real.
And nobody has offered so many different ales to this region.
Your turn.

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| The entire posting was devoted to the bottom line. I win.
As for Weatherspoons, excellent job, but they are not all the same and some are downright scruffy and should be avoided even at £1.49.
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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw"The entire posting was devoted to the bottom line. I win.
As for Weatherspoons, excellent job, but they are not all the same and some are downright scruffy and should be avoided even at £1.49.
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I saw the wind-up bit.
But I felt wound-up nervertheless.
Don't damn the entire Wetherspoons chain because some are sh/tholes and serve sh/t ale.
Why, I know many a pub that does that, but I wouldn't say that all non-Wetherspoons pubs are sh/te as a consequence.

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| On a recent visit to Derby, I visited the Babington Arms (Weatherspoons) - 18 handpumps each with a different Real Ale. Pity we were on a Real Ale trail and only had time for a couple in there!
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| A real little gem on the bus route from Doncaster to Barnsley is the Hickleton Village Hall and Social Club. Members only, £1 a year, for six ever-changing guest beers, constantly rotating, all kept as real ale should be.
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| Quote WANDERER="WANDERER"On a recent visit to Derby, I visited the Babington Arms (Weatherspoons) - 18 handpumps each with a different Real Ale. Pity we were on a Real Ale trail and only had time for a couple in there!'"
Gary Im sure I saw something about a Beer Festival in Harrogate coming soon. Enjoy your pint. 
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| Been looking at the beer list for the Festival at the Hub at the end of March. Some cracking stuff for sampling. If Foxfield Pale Ale (Cumbria) is on (yet to be confirmed) I can recommend it. It was my favourite at last weekends Oakwood Festival at Rotherham.
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| Quote miner="miner"Gary Im sure I saw something about a Beer Festival in Harrogate coming soon. Enjoy your pint.
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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw". If Foxfield Pale Ale (Cumbria) is on (yet to be confirmed) I can recommend it. '"
Good call. The Prince of Wales at Foxfield is on the Barrow-Millom/Carlisle railway line and the train stops right outside the pub ( if you tell the guard you want to get off! ) ! Could well be incorporated into the Barrow awayday?
PS What won beer of festival, Wilf?
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| Quote seuseuwho?="seuseuwho?"Good call. The Prince of Wales at Foxfield is on the Barrow-Millom/Carlisle railway line and the train stops right outside the pub ( if you tell the guard you want to get off! ) ! Could well be incorporated into the Barrow awayday?
PS What won beer of festival, Wilf?'"
Not sure (only had 19 half pints on the Friday) so I may have missed 181  . Understand that Barnsley Bitter (Acorn) won The Yorks title. Thats why I like the Plough on West laith Gate( Next to The Tut) Excellent pint of BB kept by Rod & Val.
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| You can remember a specific beer after 9.1/2 pints?!? I'm very impressed!
Noticed on your location you're into Bateman's beers.
At the Aldi in Rotherham they're selling bottled XXXB and some other speciality ones, one prefixed Autumn whose second name escapes me, Combined Harvest and Spring Goddess. All quality beers for £1.29 for a 500ml bottle.
Might be worth paying your local Aldi a visit.
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| Quote seuseuwho?="seuseuwho?"You can remember a specific beer after 9.1/2 pints?!? I'm very impressed!
Noticed on your location you're into Bateman's beers.
At the Aldi in Rotherham they're selling bottled XXXB and some other speciality ones, one prefixed Autumn whose second name escapes me, Combined Harvest and Spring Goddess. All quality beers for £1.29 for a 500ml bottle.
Might be worth paying your local Aldi a visit.'"
Mrs Grimshaw returned from the Aldi last weekend with 12 Batemans XXX pale ales and 12 Wychwood Organic pale ales.  . Batemans have a brewery trip open 7 days from 1100 - 1500 out at Wainfleet. They have a bar and then an eating area with award winning pies etc. Not been yet but it has to be done I suppose  Love the idea of the Barrow trip. Do they do B&B at that establishment?
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