Doesn't do us any good though does it.

All down to the clubs style of Rugby IMO.



First team play defensive no frills rugby hardly allowing young players the chance to express themselves.



When in Rome do what the Romans do. Thats exactly whats happening when young players move up to first team.



When young players break through at Saints or Leeds they look exciting.

I dont believe whole sale changes are required. Our form seems as though it is mainly down to a lack of ideas, coaching and confidence.



Assuming Crocker and Hame arrive here is what I would like to see.



I have left in contract expiry dates as this will play a big part in who leaves.





1 Motu Tony 2009 - Tough one. A fit Tony is a good player to have in your squad, Although I think there is more to his injury than the club are releasing. RELEASE



2 Mark Calderwood 2010. I am happy with his contribution so far and can only see him getting better. STAY



3 Todd Byrne 2009 - Already gone but that would have been my choice anyway.



4 Kirk Yeaman 2010 - STAY



5 Gareth Raynor 2010 - STAY



6 Richard Horne 2011 - STAY



7 Chris Thorman 2009 - Just not good enough for where we want to be as a club. Possible replacement for Tony at fullback but should be nowhere near the no 7 next year. RELEASE



8 Ewan Dowes 2010 - STAY



9 Shaun Berrigan 2011 Quota - STAY



10 Peter Cusack 2009 Quota - I really like Cusack but I dont feel as though we needf him Dowes and Radders. RELEASE



11 Lee Radford 2010 - One more year me thinks. STAY



12 Danny Tickle 2010 - STAY



13 Michael Crocker 2011 Quota - STAY if he gets here. Desperatly need his leadership qualities.



14 Richard Whiting 2009 - If he can make it through the rest of the season playing all games keep. If he gets another injury RELEASE, another Lupton situation.



15 Danny Washbrook 2011 - STAY



16 Willie Manu 2010 - STAY



17 Graeme Horne 2009 - Squad player. Deputises well on taking up little money on the cap. STAY



18 Jamie Thackray 2009 - At the minute STAY. But i would leave the decision on his contract till the end of season. If someone else is available of better quality he could make way.



19 Paul King 2010 - He will stay because of his contract but I would RELEASE



20 Danny Houghton 2010 - STAY



21 Tom Briscoe 2013 - STAY



22 Mike Burnett 2009 - STAY



23 Thomas Lee 2009 - STAY same reasons as G Horne



24 Craig Hall 2010 - STAY, but the jury is out.



25 Dominic Maloney 2009 - STAY, one year extension



26 Josh Hodgson - STAY



27 Sam Moa 2009 - Only one I am unsure on, maybe 1 year extension. Depends how he goes for rest of season and also who else is available.



28 Epalahame (Hame) Lauaki 2011 Quota - STAY



So I have it as Motu, Byrne, Thorman, Cusack all to go for certain. You could also possible add into that list Whiting, Thackray, Maloney and Moa depending on thier end of season performances.



Money from these releases should be used to find a 7 and a centre. The rest to fill the gaps left by the others.



This is why I cant see Horne and Lee moving on as to already have to replace 4 or possibly 8 players it is alot of upheaval. Wholesale changes I dont feel are the right way to go.

Tony

Thorman

Radford

King

Cusack

Moa

Byrne

Thackray... all can leave



G, Horne

Lee

Washbrook

Hall...All need to improve or ship out.



We need to start been ruthless in our player retention , To many Average/ utility players and not enough focus on specialist positions.

the problem is when you have micky mouse as coach the players just think there in disneyland - and come for a holiday

7 a side next year then?





We need to replace players before we have a cull.

Obviously . Contracts are up at the end of the season, A new coach "now" would have plenty of time and a bit of cap space to fill these gaps.

Thats why these threads are a joke (not aimed at you personally)

At the end of this season . We have a great chance to get rid and freshen up this team. With mostly the same players from last season , Chucking out the same "average " performances as this season, The board need to grow some balls.

Top post.



I agree with all of the above, barring Hodgson - release for me, he's not a backrower and he's too much like or not as good as what we already have.

just because we get rid of say 6 or 7 players (mine would be tony, byrne, cusack, g.horne, lee, king, radford) doesn't mean we need to replace them with that many players.



why not do what leeds and saints do ie have a first team of quality players and then if injuries occur bring in reserve players/youngsters and have players band around the youngster to blood him into first team rugby.



having youngsters playing reserves all the time isn't giving them realtive experience required to make jump to super league and with 3 or 4 utility players infront of them they struggle as they are thrown in the deep end

To be honest I have not seen anything of Hodgson to make a decision. Also my decisions are also based on what I think the club will do.