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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"OK, twice (or 3 times)'"
We've played half of the rest of the league twice and played the other half once. I guess it's the same for most other clubs.
To suggest the league table isn't a true reflection of how strong teams are until the season is over is just bollox.
The table usually takes shape after about half a dozen games. Very rarely will a team either collapse and plummet down the table or suddenly go on a long run and shoot up it. Take us, for example, we've been between 4th and 6th since round six back in March.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"We've played half of the rest of the league twice and played the other half once. I guess it's the same for most other clubs.
To suggest the league table isn't a true reflection of how strong teams are until the season is over is just bollox.
The table usually takes shape after about half a dozen games. Very rarely will a team either collapse and plummet down the table or suddenly go on a long run and shoot up it. Take us, for example, we've been between 4th and 6th since round six back in March.'"
Halfway through Hull City's first Premier League season they were in a Europa League place, HTH.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"We've played half of the rest of the league twice and played the other half once. I guess it's the same for most other clubs.
To suggest the league table isn't a true reflection of how strong teams are until the season is over is just bollox.
The table usually takes shape after about half a dozen games. Very rarely will a team either collapse and plummet down the table or suddenly go on a long run and shoot up it. Take us, for example, we've been between 4th and 6th since round six back in March.'"
It's not going to change massively but I was posting in response to kosh suggesting us being 4th was evidence we are the 4th best team in SL
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| Quote Uncle Junior="Uncle Junior"Halfway through Hull City's first Premier League season they were in a Europa League place, HTH.'" Comparing Rugby to football? Really?
We're 4th because at this point of the season we're the 4th best team. It really is that simple.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Comparing Rugby to football? Really?
We're 4th because at this point of the season we're the 4th best team. It really is that simple.'"
Yup. Such a simple concept and yet seemingly beyond the grasp of some folk.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Yup. Such a simple concept and yet seemingly beyond the grasp of some folk.'"
Sadly some people appear to resent us being 4th...mental but some of the stuff written on this board is unbelievable 
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"It's not going to change massively but I was posting in response to kosh suggesting us being 4th was evidence we are the 4th best team in SL'"
What other evidence is there of how good a team is, apart from results over an extended period? If you shared your factual evidence to the contrary we could compare its robustness to actual match results after 20 odd rounds of the competition.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"What other evidence is there of how good a team is, apart from results over an extended period? If you shared your factual evidence to the contrary we could compare its robustness to actual match results after 20 odd rounds of the competition.'"
I'm surprised that such a simple concept is lost on a woman who seems to enjoy the world of stats, numbers and probablilty so much.
Fact is that some teams will already have played more of the top teams than others, hence will be considered to have an easier run in than others and may be expected to pick up more points in that run in and finish in a higher position than they're in now.
Seems fairly simple to me but I'm not an accountant so am used to dealing in facts, not trying to make them up
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Comparing Rugby to football? Really?
We're 4th because at this point of the season we're the 4th best team. It really is that simple.'"
Until everyone has played everyone twice though the fact that some teams may have played their "harder" matched already and may have an easier run in will skew league positions at this stage.
Anyway, we'll see who the best teams are come play off time. Recent seasons have certainly proven that the team who finished top of the tree certainly weren't the best team in the comp
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"And yet we're sat in 4th having just opened up a further 1 point gap between us and two of the teams chasing from below. One of which at least was predicted to finish above us this season. Not bad for a side that isn't even good.
We're a side that still needs work, but to suggest that we aren't any good at all is just plain daft given our league position.'"
You know what Kosh, save your breath, at times trying to justify the team to people on here is a waste of time.
4th in the league and 3 points clear of 5th.
It was a poor game and other than the first 20 mins we were poor with ball in hand. However our defence was superb and won us the game. Cats may be bottom but the team they had out on Friday is good enough for the top 6, they are littered with quality.
Winning ugly is not a bad trait to have.
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