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| Oh dear here we go again slagging horney off. I'm totally fed up of the negativity of some of our so called supporters just as there is some light at the end of the tunnel they have to go looking for something or someone to slate, can't we all just get behind our team for once and show the rest we are the best supporters in super league!
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| I actually said when we signed Long we should have brought in another creative style of SO. However, Horne has shown glimpses of his old brilliant self this season so I think its worth perservering with him because a fully fit performing R.Horne is a massive asset to the the club. I would think his next contract will almost certainly be on reduced terms though as he just cant seem to get fit for any length of time and the salary cap needs to be used wisely. We haven't missed the poorly performing Horne this season but we have missed the brilliant Horne as any team would.
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| Quote hullygully="hullygully"Oh dear here we go again slagging horney off. I'm totally fed up of the negativity of some of our so called supporters just as there is some light at the end of the tunnel they have to go looking for something or someone to slate, can't we all just get behind our team for once and show the rest we are the best supporters in super league!'"

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| Quote hullygully="hullygully"Oh dear here we go again slagging horney off. I'm totally fed up of the negativity of some of our so called supporters just as there is some light at the end of the tunnel they have to go looking for something or someone to slate, can't we all just get behind our team for once and show the rest we are the best supporters in super league!'"

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| Horne started the season fairly well and then really hit top form for a couple of matches showing his class. He then got injured and was rushed back and played when he should have really been rested but needs dictated we had to try him.
Once he is back and playing alongside Long I think they will make a great partnership.
How anyone can knock him for his performances this season I really don't know.
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"There's no room for sentiment in sport!!
IMO it's time to say thank you and goodbye at the end of this season!! Either that, or put him on a squad backup players wage and play him as such!!
He earns alot more than he provides!!'"
Agree 100%.
Good player when fit. Only problem is for whatever reasons, he never seems to be fit for any decent length of time to judge is form fairly. If you look at the other stand offs in SL, you have to ask the question, would you swap R Horne for them taking into account ability, wage and how much time they actually spend on field. The following stand offs at other clubs I would swap with R Horne. All must be on similar wage.
Wigan – Sam Tomkins.
Warrington – Lee Briers.
Bradford – Brett Kearney.
Castleford – Rangi Chase.
Leeds – Danny McGuire.
Catalans – Adam Mogg (Before he left)
Wakefield – Paul Cooke (If you forget what he did to us).
Crusaders – Michael Witt.
Saints – Leon Pryce.
Harlequins – Luke Dorn and Huddersfield’s – Kevin Brown and Salford’s - Ratchford are on par IMO.
Basically you would swap him for most other stand offs in comp.
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| Quote fcandy="fcandy"
Only problem is for whatever reasons, he never seems to be fit for any decent length of time to judge his form fairly. '"
Perfectly said, if he has an extended run of games i'm sure we will see the old Rich Horne back to his best,
his illness should not be taken into account for his performances.
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| Once again we seem to be looking for a scapegoat , who will it be next week??
Of course Richard has been missed he is a top class footballer and we always look a better side with him in it, the issue this season if there has been an issue is that we have not yet seen him have the time to gel with Shaun!!
Answer is YES we have missed him
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"Once again we seem to be looking for a scapegoat , who will it be next week??
Of course Richard has been missed he is a top class footballer and we always look a better side with him in it, the issue this season if there has been an issue is that we have not yet seen him have the time to gel with Shaun!!
Answer is YES we have missed him'"
Nobodies looking for a scapegoat.  A simple question was asked in do we miss him? My opinion was no as hes offered so little on the playing side in such a long time and that i think he's been carried in a lot of games. If he can return to his form of a few years ago then yes he would be a player who would be missed but currently and i admit largely due to injuries, he isnt.
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| other than his form at the beginning of the season i haven't really been that impressed with him. however, given that Washbrook is the alternative when he's injured then i'd say we have missed him. IMO we should be looking for a better (i.e. more reliable, less injury prone) stand-off.
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| Quote Ellam="Ellam"Some people on this site speak total and utter s**t, Horney has been missed if some people went on Sunday you can see Washy is never a number 6 and Horney when fit will make us a better side. He was firing on all cylinders before he got injured but has put his body on the line for the team and ended injuring himself even more.'"
I agree completely with the fact that Washy is not a 6 and yes Horney will improve the team at the moment that position.
But, my point being, Horne is a shadow of the player before his injury. He is a player on an international wage but in no way is he an international quality player!!
I'm not starting a vendetta against Horne, i just feel that if we want to push for trophies and more success we need to progress more and losing a big earner who isn't performing at his best will help us to do this.
I think bringing Ratchford in for 2011 to work alongside Longy for a year will help no end and he will be far cheaper than Horne!!
People may disagree, but that is just my opinion!!
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"I agree completely with the fact that Washy is not a 6 and yes Horney will improve the team at the moment that position.
But, my point being, Horne is a shadow of the player before his injury. He is a player on an international wage but in no way is he an international quality player!!
I'm not starting a vendetta against Horne, i just feel that if we want to push for trophies and more success we need to progress more and losing a big earner who isn't performing at his best will help us to do this.
[uI think bringing Ratchford in for 2011 to work alongside Longy for a year will help no end and he will be far cheaper than Horne! |
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