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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't think there are any unanswered questions about Hall. The only reason we should persist with him is if we literally have no other option.'"
So all this time Agar has been slagged off for his treatment of Hall he was actually right then? What you are saying is that Hall is not good enough.
IMO playing someone like Kent is the centres would not possibly make much difference in defence but Hall is a genuine threat with ball in hand whereas with Kent we don't know.
I have mixed feelings about Hall as he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again and I don't know enough about Nicklas and Kent to give an opinion on if they are ready or not. What I do know is that the fans were creaming fro Brough to be given a chance then slagged him a year later. The same with Washbrook and the same with Hall and even Briscoe to a certain extent, I would like to try an avoid that with the next set of new players coming through. It's a fine line between throwing them in to give them their chance and it backfiring as they are clearly not ready, which happened with Reece.
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| Quote hullandbroncos="hullandbroncos"Cant believe still want Hall to play after his poor form , An excuse that cunningham and nicklas not being physically strong enough doesn't work me especially if thats why hall should play . Whiting and turner on the right side would do for me with washy / nicklas at 6.'"
Did you see Turner playing at centre again Leeds, turnstyle if ever I saw one. Hall offers a genine attacking threat with the ball. Sometimes you have to let players find their form, there is more to managing a players performance than simply dropping them.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Did you see Turner playing at centre again Leeds, turnstyle if ever I saw one. Hall offers a genine attacking threat with the ball. Sometimes you have to let players find their form, there is more to managing a players performance than simply dropping them.'"
Correct!!
This public stoning of Craig Hall is a bit OTT considering the whole team hasn't been performing well.... At least he isn't taking a MASSIVE wage and playing cr@p like some others!!
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"So all this time Agar has been slagged off for his treatment of Hall he was actually right then? '"
The only thing Agar has done wrong with Hall was continuing to play him at FB when it was clear he wasn't up to it, then continuing to play him in the threequarters this season when it's clear he isn't up to it.
Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"What you are saying is that Hall is not good enough.
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In my opinion, he's not. He's had long enough and he's not a SL player. Hall will probably be a very good Championship centre - a standard most of us could only dream of playing at - but he's just not good enough for Super League.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M" Hall offers a genine attacking threat with the ball. '"
He offers moments of inspiration, granted. These are however overshadowed by his equally regular errors/wrong options and appalling defence.
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| I'd switch hall and yeaman around as a last chance saloon for hall tp see if he's any better on the left. I've been a big fan of his but he's been rubbish recently
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Did you see Turner playing at centre again Leeds, turnstyle if ever I saw one. Hall offers a genine attacking threat with the ball. Sometimes you have to let players find their form, there is more to managing a players performance than simply dropping them.'"
So turner doesnt deserve another chance at centre ? Hall has being persistently poor and costing us tries , As for this genuine attacking threat havent seen anything of it apart from the try against quins
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"The only thing Agar has done wrong with Hall was continuing to play him at FB when it was clear he wasn't up to it, then continuing to play him in the threequarters this season when it's clear he isn't up to it.
In my opinion, he's not. He's had long enough and he's not a SL player. Hall will probably be a very good Championship centre - a standard most of us could only dream of playing at - but he's just not good enough for Super League.'"
Fair play to you for having an opinion. Too many people are still slating Agar regarding Hall and but then criticising Hall for being poor. I have to admit I am starting to think the same about Hall, I expected more from him this season but he is not delivering which is a shame.
In fairness to Agar he never played much at fullback and only had a maybe one game at stand off. His confidence was shot I will admit but then again we are gtting told the same about his confidence this season and he has had plenty of opportunities at centre.
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| Quote hullandbroncos="hullandbroncos"So turner doesnt deserve another chance at centre ? Hall has being persistently poor and costing us tries , As for this genuine attacking threat havent seen anything of it apart from the try against quins'"
I have not said that but at the moment has has offered nothing in the centres in both attack and defence and apart from a promising first game at 6 he has done little there either. I questioned his signing at the time, I don't think he is going to be good enough, we should have signed Ratchford or certainly be looking too.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M" Too many people are still slating Agar regarding Hall and but then criticising Hall for being poor. '"
I'm not one of those who thinks Agar is to blame for [ieverything[/i. I don't like the direction he's taking our club in and I'd like to see the back of him as soon as possible, but he can't be held [itotally[/i responsible for the form (or lack thereof) of individual players. O'Meley, Manu and Whiting are all playing consistently well under the same coach as Hall.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"I'm not one of those who thinks Agar is to blame for [ieverything[/i. I don't like the direction he's taking our club in and I'd like to see the back of him as soon as possible, but he can't be held [itotally[/i responsible for the form (or lack thereof) of individual players. O'Meley, Manu and Whiting are all playing consistently well under the same coach as Hall.'"
Excellent point.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"I'm not one of those who thinks Agar is to blame for [ieverything[/i. I don't like the direction he's taking our club in and I'd like to see the back of him as soon as possible, but he can't be held [itotally[/i responsible for the form (or lack thereof) of individual players. O'Meley, Manu and Whiting are all playing consistently well under the same coach as Hall.'"
Well said! 
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