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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Are we using the fact the Hall backed up a quite sublime break and offload by Tansey for a walk-in try as some sort of proof that actually he is brilliant?'"
No. Although it does show that he's one of the best we have at backing up. Although that's not saying much TBH.
Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"As has been pointed out Hall has had plenty of time and opportunity to cement a place or at least show some improvement in the weak areas of his game, unfortunately he's done neither (IMO of course before someone offers me out for a fight or something). Some of the things Hall does are brilliant and in a strange way he would be more suited to a better team than can perhaps afford the luxury of carrying a player who will ocassionaly put his own team under pressure with mistakes etc.
Is it the fault of the player or the club that he hasn't improved enough in the areas of his game that are weak? Difficult to say whose fault it is but it a real shame that someone with his obvious talent hasn't become the player we ALL wish he could be.
For the right price he is worth another deal but it might actually be to his own benefit if he moved on.'"
Good summary.
IMO of course.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Are you feeling OK? It's not like you to get hung up on the casual use of language like this.'"
I guess I just get fed up with those who rate Hall describing anyone who does not rate him as 'slagging' him or 'using him as a scapegoat' or any of the other 'casual uses of language' that they come out with. I don't think Hall is responsible for everything that is wrong with Hull FC, I don't think he's a bad player. I just don't think he's cut out for the top of the Super League. It muddies the waters somewhat when posters make sweeping generalisation about people 'slagging Hall off again' or whatever, because most of us who don't rate him don't slag him off either.
And it's not like you to make throwaway comments about no one in particular. If you say something, it's usually considered. Your posts on this subject, however, make you seem a little like an educated, literate version of bigcjlchris (or whatever his name is). Without the threats of violence, of course.

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| I would have a few quid on Hall being our top try scorer per minutes on the pitch ratio of the last 20 years so he must be doing something right,
depends what the club are looking for in a centre, the try scorer or the defensive centre like Sid was as an example, its very rare that you find a centre who has it all without looking to Quota spots and i think we should count ourselves lucky we have a young player with his ability to cross the line.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"I guess I just get fed up with those who rate Hall describing anyone who does not rate him as 'slagging' him or 'using him as a scapegoat' or any of the other 'casual uses of language' that they come out with. I don't think Hall is responsible for everything that is wrong with Hull FC, I don't think he's a bad player. I just don't think he's cut out for the top of the Super League. It muddies the waters somewhat when posters make sweeping generalisation about people 'slagging Hall off again' or whatever, because most of us who don't rate him don't slag him off either.'"
I didn't even use the word. I guess I could be accused of being lazy in not pointing out to Paul M that [ino[/i player was being 'slagged' but it really didn't occur to me that it would be an issue.
And for the record, I get equally fed up with anyone who disagrees with some of the criticism of Hall being characterised as a 'fan' and somehow rating him as international standard.
Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"And it's not like you to make throwaway comments about no one in particular. If you say something, it's usually considered. Your posts on this subject, however, make you seem a little like an educated, literate version of bigcjlchris (or whatever his name is). Without the threats of violence, of course.
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See my explanation above. I really do think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. This is the very definition of an argument over nothing. 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I didn't even use the word. I guess I could be accused of being lazy in not pointing out to Paul M that [ino[/i player was being 'slagged' but it really didn't occur to me that it would be an issue.'"
He asked if Yeaman was being 'slagged', you said, "No, Hall." That implies that you thought Hall was being slagged, does it not?
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And you have every right to. All power to your elbow and that.
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I don't consider it an argument. Neither of us has threatened to beat the other up. Yet.
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| whoever he signs for will be getting a young fella with a proven ability offensively and potential to become a great player but for what ever reason it has not been often enough at FC.
He isnt international class by a long long way but in a new environment who knows!!
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"whoever he signs for will be getting a young fella with a proven ability offensively and potential to become a great player but for what ever reason it has not been often enough at FC.
He isnt international class by a long long way but in a new environment who knows!!'"
So he's going then?
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| Quote Smiggs="Smiggs"So he's going then?'"
Ignore Wilfy 
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| Quote Smiggs="Smiggs"So he's going then?'"
No one knows yet, the term "who ever he signs for" could include us but i feel he will go and at the end of the day some have to go to make way !!
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| IMO ( as that's what these sites are supposed to be ) I have my doubts over keeping hall. Can't doubt his ability in attack, yet his defence is woeful. But for me to single hall out for this would be pathetic really. Yeah so his defending is crap but just as an example Tansey has a habit of going into tackles standing upright, which gives the upper hand to the attacker as he has momentum going into the challenge. I have nothing against Tansey as I think he is an outstanding player but is a fault in his game. We have conceded a few tries this year through this IMO. So I aint gonna get on halls back and I personally hope he stays, but if he leaves maybe its in his best interest.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"He asked if Yeaman was being 'slagged', you said, "No, Hall." That implies that you thought Hall was being slagged, does it not?
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I take my hat off to you, sir. I consider myself to be pretty handy in the pedantry and semantic nit-pickery arena but I must acknowledge a superior practitioner of the arts in your good self. 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I take my hat off to you, sir. I consider myself to be pretty handy in the pedantry and semantic nit-pickery arena but I must acknowledge a superior practitioner of the arts in your good self.
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For gods sake Kosh could you not have just offered him out, I was hoping for a fight and now it's gonna end with you both being friends and winking and smiling at each other 
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