Is there? Have you seen it? Who is the contract between? There is a yet to be agreed S106 agreement to be entered into, but I see nothing about any separate contractual agreement?



Also, the stadium does NOT have to be built first. The conditions proposed say that none of the retail can be occupied prior to the freehold of the stadium being transferred to the club, it says nothing about about building it first?

Sounds depressingly familiar. At least it's a bit more definitive than the ambiguous 'built out' terminology.

I'd love to see it. For me that's just film flam and folk seeing what they want to see - not impossible but highly unlikely.



No developer or bank would sign up for that IMHO and no Council could force them, especially as it's a buyers market at present. This is a private development and as such no bank would lend money on those terms and no Supermarket (if one appears) would wait for that to happen.



As this seems to hinge on a supermarket taking a slice of the action, which one do you reckon it will be? As an observer there already is a sizeable Asda pretty much on the site and numerous brand outlets at Xscape, I can't see the scope for a second supermarket which would have to be a big one to justify the development.



If It's any consolation I reckon it's possibly as likely as NM maybe slightly more which isn't saying much.

Didn't the Asda application to extend their current store also get passed? So it won't be them. Sainsburys are currently arguing over changing the B&Q store nearby and opposed the application so they are unlikely. Tesco & Morrisons have scaled back big store openings massively so also aren't likely to be interested in the immediate future either, especially with Asda already close by and no guarantee of instant success. It may take a while for it to all come to fruition.

None of the above if we are right. The movers in the supermarket stakes are the premium stores and the budget stores. But this scheme is a retail park and the supermarket is but one part!



Vastly, I understand your scepticism, but I suspect the agreement is much, much stronger than ours was. Peter Box has put his name on this one! He won't even talk to us!

Marks and Spencer's I've been told.

Isn't part of the plan a petrol station operated by the supermarket? Theres only the 'big four' that operate them isn't there? Unless they can get a seperate company (shell, jet etc) interested.

They don't necessarily have to be on the same site!

Shell, BP, Conoco, sell fuel to each other, just because you fill up say at a Shell garage does not mean you've got their product in your tank, Lindsey Oil Co. at Immingham also supply fuel to those 3 companies'.

Fair point!

That's an utter disgrace!



The bloke needs a serious reality check

So why are we letting get away with such an indifferent attichude? The developers have taken the proverbial out the council and our local MPs as well as ourselves. So close to an election I hope we don't miss the chance to make this into a political issue.