Great crowd, great following from Wigan. Some fantastic rugby by Wigan, a great team to watch and lovely tries that simply needed applauding. Sam Tompkins is just a sublime player. I thought for 15 minutes we had a real go, we tried to ruffle a few feathers. Wigan were to good but we did our best to help them. We just do not seem to have enough brains in the side, we kept forcingthe pass and giving the ball to Wigan. Plenty of effort but not not enough understanding of how to play the game.

Thought Fox and Cockayne were good, Amor was our best forward.

My gripes for the day are : why when Kirmond was getting his backside handed to him on a plate did we not either swoop Lee Smith , who did a good job on Goulding, with him. Or why not take Kirmond of and put Walshaw in the centre. Walshaw and Trout again not given enough game time, both were doing a great job in defence but got so little game time. Trout had fire in his belly today. Leave them on the pitch. Why do we keep persisting with Wood, he is just not good enough.

Kirmond was way out of his depth at centre today,but looby covered quite a lot for him and he mopped up his missed tackles quite a few times. Looby also did not seem to have a problem with Hock. I can't understand why he pulled looby off after doing only around 15 minutes. It was after that we really started tio open up for them down our right and then they just kept going down there all the game.

Pretty much spot on assessment. I'd add that Johnson put some good shots on in defence as well but ultimately after the first quarter it was dire to watch. Same mistakes week in week out.

In the 1st half silly errors cost us 20 points and bad defending let them in ok the ref did us no favours.Then in the 2nd half we stood back and watched them instead of getting among them.Talk about making a good side look world beaters they had an eye on next weekend and we let them look good.Ok probs if they didnt have next weekend on the mind they would have given us a thrashing but in the 1st half you could see they were there for the taking.

I think Wigan showed us up for what we are

Not good enough to mix it with the big boys. Their fitness and ball skills as well as individual skills just showed us up. Full credit to Wigan it was nice to watch some of their stuff.

Some strange refereeing calls, tomkins losing the ball in the tackle, not given as a knock on and then being pushed over the try line and being awarded a penalty.

I had the fortune of chatting with the match commissioner and the officials after the game, none of who could either justify or "see" the infringements, but at least took the time to explain, however when the referee turned up he neither chose to debate the issues and positively looked down his nose at me.

A more arrogant individual, lacking in the necessary skills to fulfill his duty, I have yet to encounter in our game.

That said, our side today failed to show up, had we who knows, errors from Lee Smith, Ollie Wilkes Andy Raleigh, a kick out on the full and the bizarre officialdom all added to our downfall against a largel un impressive Wigan side, another visiting BV this season that has left with the spoils without having to get out of second gear. I still can't see what Kyle Wood is offering to a beaten side that Andy Ellis isn't given the chance to show, yet again we have players playing out of position when RA has said we have a squad of 33-34 that is too big.

I understand we are building something, however I can't see wether its going to be a bungalow or a skyscraper, and judging by the performances over the last three or four games, neither can the players.

Thats moe than one word, Gash is the word.

Wood had a couple of good games since then has been average at best.The best thing Agar has done this season is drop John and put Sykes at 6 when you have said that you have said the lot.Looking at his half time team talk at the millenium and how he was wouldnt put fire in a well lit BBQ.I was willing to give him chance but the time has come to question him as a top flight coach alas like the Cas coach we gave him a contract for 3 years.I have said we are a work in progress I still maintain it but we aint showing any sign of getting better when we should.

Kirmond should have been nowhere near the team today, looked completely unfit, Wigan saw this and took advantage over and over again. Time to bring Ellis back, Wood's had more than enough games where he's failed to show anything other than a liability in defense, he seems to be living off a couple of early season games. Once again we try to throw one too many passes that constantly end up on the deck or knocked-on, sometimes we really need to just keep it simple and keep ourselves in the game.

It is, sorry boss!!

Utterly pathetic defence, yet again. Thats 14 out of 21 games where we've conceded 30 or more points.

164 points against in last 4 games - please tell me what exactly they do in training cos' it obviously aint defense.

Didn't see the match but I think R.A. should have reacted and tried to sort that centre position out even if it meant moving Sykes there and Wood at 6 from the bench if not trying to give Walshaw more game time and a go there? I wonder if the pass is forced as we have no confidence in our go forward/ability to break the tackle?



I also agree Wood doesn't appear to be a 9 and it may be time to get Ellis back for the run in to the end of the season to see how he goes from the off the bench.He is a SL standard hooker as proven at Harlequins for 2 seasons where he was top at the club for yardage. I hope something good comes out of the sad situation at Bradford and we get a couple of their quality props for some more go forward.

Its time for R.A. to closely analyse what each WTW player brings to the table through their stats. WTW have done well with what little time they had to get a squad together but we are a bottom 3 club and there is no excuse for next season for that. R.A. has already acknowledged that squad building is underway - Aiton and Washbrook must be secure with the amount of tackling they do. Hopefully we can attract the right standard of player with the positive things happening at the club.