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| Ahh good luck to him. Hopefully by the time he leaves he will have won everything possible over here anyway  remember when he first started and loads of idiots were saying he isn't as good as Feka 
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| I'm not overly worried by losing Lima.
Hes done a job for 2 years and we have good strength in depth. Prop is the easiest position to pick up a decent replacement. It also frees up even more cap and quota for the important positions.
To be honest, most of the genuine 'superstars' from down under only come for a couple of years anyway. Why do we expect that to change now ?
So long as our planning takes that into account, I'm not worried.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"Just pie in the sky!
You 'HOPE' that things will be better.
Props are a rare breed.
They don't get into their peak till their late 20s, and often their early 30's in age.
Our youngsters MAY fit the bill in the future.
But there is nothing there at the moment. Mossop may fill a prop spot.
I really rate Prescott. But the modern game needs a number of front rowers.
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This is the realistic view. Mossop and Prescott look the part but tend to be a little injury prone. Lauaki is averageness personified and the young props are prospects and some way from the finished article. Also Lima is a better prop than any of them.
I think anyone who thinks we can cover his loss next season from within is living in cloud cuckoo land including Wane if that is his plan.
We need to replace Lima with a prop of similar quality and that is not going to be easy. As Dean Bell said the financial incentives to come here from down under have all but gone.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"This is the realistic view. Mossop and Prescott look the part but tend to be a little injury prone. Lauaki is averageness personified and the young props are prospects and some way from the finished article. Also Lima is a better prop than any of them.
I think anyone who thinks we can cover his loss next season from within is living in cloud cuckoo land including Wane if that is his plan.
We need to replace Lima with a prop of similar quality and that is not going to be easy. As Dean Bell said the financial incentives to come here from down under have all but gone.'"
Very true Dave - Maguire did not bring Lima all the way to Wigan for nothing and he's not taking him back all the way to Sydney for nothing either - replacing Lima is not going to be easy.
I actually think that you have to go back to the days of Smith and Pongia to see a Wigan pack that genuinley intimidated the opposition like the current one does and a huge part of that is because of Jeff Lima - the guy looks like he could burst through a wall and is not injury prone.
Just hope we have plans in place!
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| Quote pies-r-us="pies-r-us"I would have liked him to stay, but so be it, and as the say, "as one door closes another opens" one good player won't spoil the show. There's alot to do before he goes, and time to sort a replacement, no need to panic. =#FF0000We have played well and won without a one time great, Stu Fielden for going on for two seasons without feeling a great loss, so, as long as Jeff Lima gives us a 100% till he goes, good luck to him!. As they say "The King is dead, Long live the King!!" and here's to the next King. Whoever he may be... There are others that would be a much greater loss, Tomkins, Finch, Hock, O'Loughlin.....and as for a loss to the team, Tommy Leuluai is a bigger one.
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For those 2 seasons that Fielden has been out we brought in a ready made replacement in Lima. We have a couple of great young props in Mossop & Prescott but with his loss the pack is really going to miss the experience he brings, it would be great to see Fielden take that role once again playing somewhere near what we know he is capable of but failing that i think we need to sign a proven world class prop from somewhere.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Surely the only thing you should be worried about is trying to win the 2 competitions this year? The best way to do that is to use Lima the same way as we do now? What happens with Lima next year is no longer our concern.'"
It's about protecting our long term investments. So resting Mossop/Prescott et al. Lima we can run into the ground.
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| Quote P-J="P-J"It's about protecting our long term investments. So resting Mossop/Prescott et al. Lima we can run into the ground.'"
Yep, running Lima into the ground is really going to help us at the business end of the season. Genius.
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| Quote P-J="P-J"It's about protecting our long term investments. So resting Mossop/Prescott et al. Lima we can run into the ground.'"
Mossop and Prescott get enough rest through the season with the amount of injuries they get.
I can't honestly think of anyone who is A-on the same level as Lima and B-Available.
Massive loss
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| I'd love to replace him with James Tamou, the guy was a monster in Origin!!
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| Quote FIOS="FIOS"Ahh good luck to him. Hopefully by the time he leaves he will have won everything possible over here anyway
remember when he first started and loads of idiots were saying he isn't as good as Feka
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Agreed, he has given us 100% and I am sure that will be the case for the rest of the season,
Good Luck and bring us the double !!!!!!
Lima ! Lima !Lima !
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| Quote p1e e8ter="p1e e8ter"I'd love to replace him with James Tamou, the guy was a monster in Origin!!'"
Let's be realistic - we aren't going to get any current SOO players...
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Yep, running Lima into the ground is really going to help us at the business end of the season. Genius.'"
If it means the rest of the pack is fresh of course it will.
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