think tbh this is our level now. we will be pushing for the lower end of the playoffs and people are ignoring the fact wakey, cas and hudds are not the teams they once were.



and neither are we.

That's what I've accepted too.



It's demoralizing but you have to accept reality.

It's a good job there's no relegation this year. Marginally better than Salford, Celtic would have had dispensation.



We're THAT bad!



Never mind, let's wait till September time eh Brian?

Exactly right. They reminded me of the old London Broncos teams of the past who used the same tactics.



Having said that we just did'nt take our chances and once again ended up chasing the game.

But Hudds chose a gameplan to play and win against Wigan and the conditions, sounds like the same tactics from Wigan that we use every week. Hudds do not use those tactics every week.

Were in danger of becoming a second tier club with a coach and fans who belive that it is acceptable to lose at home to Cas, Wakey and Hudds because if we finish in the top 8 we get a chance to be champions.



Isn't it great - we might finish 8th - win a couple of games and come 3rd in the play offs - and then we can accept another season of mediocrity safe in the knowledge that we are "improving".

This stuns me!



People are happy to accept mediocrity and worse!



On paper we are a far better team than we perform, on paper like Wire and the Bulls we are a better team than we perfrom. Wire have done something about it, just wonder when us and the Bulls will, the longer we hold for action the lower our expactations can be for 09 and beyond.

I will eat my own dung if Noble is given a contract extension at the end of the year. In fact, and I keep saying it.....I think he will walk and within the next 6 league games should we not win the majority.



Stains (H)

Catalans (A)

Celtic (H)

Wakey (A)

Stains (Murrayfield)

Hull KR (H)

But we had enough chances to win this game comfortably and did'nt take them. Poor last tackle options and the usual mistakes....dropped ball, Knock on.

If we had, it would not have mattered what tactics hudds used.

If my Auntie had a cock and balls she would be my unkle. Hudds adapted a game plan to get the win by the sounds of it. We adopted the same game plan and made the same errors we have made for the last 2 years. That is the issue.



Same story different week, no signs of these issues being cured.

I think we already are a second tier club, it's just taking a long time to sink in with us fans. Once we accept this and move on things will get a lot better for us 'cos we won't have such high expectations of our team and thus being disappointed every other week or so won't come as much of a surprise.

I think i've reached that point already.