Is that the "reaching the Grand Final and well placed to do so again whilst blooding lots of young players" boat?



Ignore some of the nutters over on the Saints board - Potter is doing an excellent job in the circumstances and I for one am gutted he's off.

I certainly don't think that Justin Morgan would be an improvement on him.

Absolutely not.

Nathan Brown...

What's the point of getting to a Grand Final ant not winning it? It's the same as us as those who said Noble didn't do well for us, considering we got to 4 semi finals in both competitions in the time he was here, compared to what we was when he took over that in itself should be considered as an achievement but to others it isn't good enough, the same goes for Potter as it seems.

Are you saying that the losing coach in a Grand Final is always a failure?







Potter's remit is wildly different from Noble's at Wigan. Potter's main job is to overhaul a succesful, ageing squad whilst remaining competitive - and he is doing very well in that regard.

It seems to be that when a Wigan player or coach reaches a final & doesn't win it is deemed a Failure by Sinteliners, When a Saints Coach or player does, it isn't a failure?



Noble's remit was to overturn a vastly under performing club, make them competitive again and oversee the development of the Jumior set up & Wigan.



Did he do that?

+1

Exactly Jukes, many Saints fans expected to be winning trophies when Potter took over after he did a good job with where he got the Dragons. FTV might be in the minority but there was plenty of Saints fans who expected he'd carry on where Anderson left and he has simply failed as a coach at St Helens.

Mal Meninga

Yes he did. Noble was, however, at Wigan for much of the 2006 season then the whole 2007, 2008 and 2009 seasons. His remit changed over that time and by the end of his tenure was nothing like what you outline above - it was to win trophies.



Potter has had a season and a half and in that time has reached the grand final and blooded lots of promising young players. We sit 2 points off the top of the table despite a fairly ropey time with injuries this year and we're in some good form. It looks like Potter will not get the opportunity to build upon what he is doing at the moment.



Noble had that opportunity and made little of it. That is the difference.

He'll be gone in weeks - announcing you are leaving at the end of the season seldom turns out well.



Remember Stuart Raper in 2003.