pm Jukesays, got his done at Ray's in Wigan £85, really good job.

I've got Ancient and Loyal on the inside of my bicep. It was done at Rays and they've done a really good job, it was only £35 aswell. I dont know why but Rays gets a bad reputation at times for some reason but his son did a good job on mine.

Ray himself does the coat of arms tattoo's, I have WIGAN R.L.F.C. ANCIENT AND LOYAL on my shoulder that Vinny did and thats good, he also did one for my son (21-12 on here) on his back which he still has the stencil for.

Don't go to Sids in Spring View

, I had one done there when I was at school and he was smoking a fag whilst doing it and I could have done a better one with my left foot.

Quote aerofine="aerofine"I wouldn't recommend any of that tattoo studios in the centre of town. Best tatt studio that my partner has found is Design 4 Life in Liverpool. Absolutely 1st class - will draw up designs for you if yuo go in and give them ideas. My partner is just part way through finishing his left arm sleeve, and has also had writing on his chest done at this studio. They do the tatt free hand, and not just stick a font onto you. www.design4lifetattoo.co.uk/'" just had a look on there site, looks like a good place tbh, might jave to drop in when im around there this week

Quote aerofine="aerofine"I wouldn't recommend any of that tattoo studios in the centre of town. Best tatt studio that my partner has found is Design 4 Life in Liverpool. Absolutely 1st class - will draw up designs for you if yuo go in and give them ideas. My partner is just part way through finishing his left arm sleeve, and has also had writing on his chest done at this studio. They do the tatt free hand, and not just stick a font onto you. www.design4lifetattoo.co.uk/'" just had a look on there site, looks like a good place tbh, might jave to drop in when im around there this week

IIRC thats wher parsifal got his crest and sid said he would never do that tattoo again as IT HAD TOO MUCH DETAIL IN

I have mine done at Rays and never had any problems!

I've had two piercings at Ray's and he did a bad job of them. I gave him the benefit of the doubt after the first one but would never get another piercing there. I know a few people who've had tattoos there too, one of the tatts is really good, but the rest of them are bad work, with the outlines bleeding and spreading, and the colouring all blotchy.

Why not go to the trusted same place as Shaun Ainscough went to recently?

type Wigan Ink : Shaun Ainscough into a popular video sharing site to watch it being done.

I wouldn't bother but that's just me.

Rambos in Manchester has a good reputation.

im going tomorrow to somewhere in sale to have the wigan crest done on my leg, quite nervous now though !