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| Anyone else think he was crap today. I don't like calling the ref and aint bothered about getting beat off a better team but
Peacock took Sam Tomkins off his feet with a high tackle when he looked like scoring = Penalty
Keith Senior kicks Joel Tomkins in the face and knocks him out = Penalty
Liam Farrell knocks Danny Maguire to the floor even though he had jumped into him before he kicked it so he was committed = Sin Bin
I am sick of our refs having so much input to the outcome of a game, in the NRL you hardly see the refs, they lie on all day but they let if flow. Over here they are like Nazis. He ruined it and I feel he really did us today, not bothered what the penalty count is, he gave them penalties when it mattered.
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| Coleys pushing penalty - ??? You see that all the time and it never ever gets noticed.
O'Loughlins hand trapped between the ball and the man penalty, you are kiddin me? every 50/50 call went Leeds' way.
One hell of a coincidence that our only 3 losses this year have come from the same man in the middle.
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| Quote Mother Feka="Mother Feka"Coleys pushing penalty - ??? You see that all the time and it never ever gets noticed.
O'Loughlins hand trapped between the ball and the man penalty, you are kiddin me? every 50/50 call went Leeds' way.
One hell of a coincidence that our only 3 losses this year have come from the same man in the middle.'"
Yeah, forgot about them. Coley into Peacock and O'Loughlin? When you tackle the player you trap the ball, if the oppostiton player clamps his arm down he traps your arm in there too, if O'Loughlin would have dragged his arm out the ball would have come out with it therefore = Penalty for stripping the ball so he left it in therefore = Penalty for leaving his arm in.
He was a disgrace today Bentham.
It bugs me that refs have no knowledge of the game they just see rules, they don't see the game from a fans/players point of view. The refs are only there to make sure things go the right way not to orchestrate the game, they have to much input to a game, they are Nazis.
When Prescott was lying on he gave a penalty, of course players are going to be a bit slow getting off it was the last ten mins of a hard game in bad conditions as players are tired and are going to get off the players slower, refs need to realise that they aren't taking the mick they are genuinely tired.
Although we won last week Thierry Albert was woeful, I would have said the same today had we won also, Bentham really dealt us a dud hand. I don't want any favours I just want the game to flow, in the NRL you hardly see stupid penalties, its getting like Rugby Union with refs wanting to be the star of the show.
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| Its no shock. The ref's boss is one of the biggest Wigan haters around, and his ref's grew up at a time when we beat all there small clubs week in week out. It is no suprise at all to see that we never get the calls when it matters.
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| Quote Mother Feka="Mother Feka"O'Loughlins hand trapped between the ball and the man penalty, you are kiddin me? every 50/50 call went Leeds' way.'"
Not 5 mins prior to that, O'loughlin lost the ball in a tackle with Delaney and his theatrics won him a penalty for interference, when the close up clearly showed that he had lost it. You cant have it both ways.
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| Mathers accidently high tackled Matt King and knocked him out the other year and was red carded.
Keith Senior accidently kicked Tomkins in the face and knocked him out and was a penalty?
You shouldn't be kicking out in the tackle anyway never mind the opposition in the face, should have been sin binned IMO.
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| Also in the first half we kicked though, Lee Smith knocked it forward and Sam Tomkins picked it up and went over only to be held up and was given a turn over? Surely if it was play on after Lee Smith knocked it back it would have been back to one? I've got to watch it again on sky plus and check this because I feel utterly gutted by the decisions of the ref today.
Bailey being offside? The ref has his back towards Bailey so how did he see it? He had one foot offside but come on, everyone in the league would be offside every set if we played to the rulebook.
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| Don't think the niggly penalties were too much to complain about as he gave us a fair few. However there was clearly a discrepency when it mattered. I can't see how Peacock stayed on the field, the original arm was bad enough but when he swung the other arm, he should have walked.
Was it R Bailey who went flying in and just missed Sam too? He needed telling then because it was quite clear that he did it with intent.
Senior's leg was clearly accidental but I think it is becoming more and more common for players to kick out like that and I feel it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt.
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| Quote post="post"Anyone else think he was crap today. I don't like calling the ref and aint bothered about getting beat off a better team but
Peacock took Sam Tomkins off his feet with a high tackle when he looked like scoring = Penalty
Keith Senior kicks Joel Tomkins in the face and knocks him out = Penalty
Liam Farrell knocks Danny Maguire to the floor even though he had jumped into him before he kicked it so he was committed = Sin Bin
I am sick of our refs having so much input to the outcome of a game, in the NRL you hardly see the refs, they lie on all day but they let if flow. Over here they are like Nazis. He ruined it and I feel he really did us today, not bothered what the penalty count is, he gave them penalties when it mattered.
Gutted.'"
I think the automatic sin bin rule for taking out a kicker is a poor one in all honesty. I think there are times when it should apply in cases where there is an obvious intent to attack the player to cause injury. I thought the young Wigan player (Neeson was it?) was a touch late but there wasn't a great deal in the challenge and McGuire went for an Oscar.
But I made a post on the Bulls board that it seems a little unfair that you can knock a players head off and go on report but it's an automatic binning for a late tackle on a kicker! Cummings is bloody useless though, so I wouldn't expect a common sense approach from the referee's anytime soon.
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| Ooh look, no mention of Delaney being dropped on his head

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