got to disagree about the no songs bit - we have loads of songs but as no one knows them or joins in they dont get used, and liek has been said - the songs fade out too quickly cos no one joins in !.



As for the drum - NO ! who ever says drums help atmosphere were obviously not at Wigan where they banged a drum constantly for 80 mins with no one joining in singing !

Yeah Big G does help for the 1st couple of times but after that it becomes annoying as its the same thing for the rest of the game and people get bored of doing it then

I find it funny when people look at you when you sing one of the older songs.



But then again that may be because of my singing.



Don't forget that guy infront of me who had a go at me for being loud and singing.

thats cos none of these new fans know the older songs but we will persist

oh dear !

We need new songs i can count only 6 songs which we have which is rubbish so dont say we have a lot because we dont, every time someone comes up with a new song it is just met with sigh's and complaints sing it and see how it goes. One of the main problem with our so called singers is that they would rather sing songs to each other than about the team, you may disagree but i never miss a game and this does happen. We need to start putting some effort in, if we beat the crusaders the away leg will be perfect to start new songs. Less negativity and more positivity if not we will go nowhere. Also why dont you pop down to the Supporters Assosiation we can start to come up with ideas then.

FFS. There are more important things going on at the moment than your own inflated opinion on whether or not we have enough songs. It's gone beyond tiresome. I can remember 10 years ago when there were less than half the numbers but the atmosphere was better and we all sang along. It's already been explained why it's not as good at the moment yet you just repeat the same old guff, over and over.



You want less negativity yet see nothing wrong with criticising on here. So called singers this, not enough songs that.



In 5 days we have a massive game you know. Huge game. Much more important.

Rubbish, i could sing 10 songs that we have sung in the past - the problem is not with the amount of songs its the amount of voices singing them .



I go home from every game with no voice and i have done for 25 years nearly now whereas the majority of people have never done that.

Part of the problem too is we have situations where the younger ones at the back dont know the song that the 'older' ones are singing so just resort to singing something different over the top - usually der der der der - insert players name here - or Fartown Fartown which is far too fast and rushed.

and lets stop the Barmy army chant and get it back to how it should be - claretgold army !!

Now you see thats what i like to hear fans who put some effort in, if we can just get some of the younger ones as you say to learn the songs then we are up and running, we need more than one tune and start to sing proper songs even if they have not been as common over the last few years. I myself am only 18 but i always join in on the songs no matter what, nothing beter than getting behind the team as it does make a difference.

Danril have a touched a nerve with you or somthing because i will tell you somthing this is a issue that does need sorting out as it could hinder the growth as a club. If what your saying is sort this out later, well how much later we need to act now.

What I'm saying is that you're just repeating what you and many others have said before on here time and again and basically insulting those of us who have been there and done it. You're belittling the singers that have been following the club for 20 years plus and that were once your age and are now rapidly approaching the land of wrinkles and grey pubes whilst totally ignoring reasoning suggested for why the atmosphere can be a little flat at times. You've not actually suggested anything constructive at all. So let me tell YOU something. If you honestly think giving it the Big Mister on here, making inferences about people not putting the effort in etc is going to change it then you're kidding yourself. Suffice to say you haven't put me in the singing mood. If you think taking action is posting complaints on a message board where many of the posters are the ones who've sang their hearts out with the best of them for Christ knows how long then you're kidding yourself.



Yes it would be great if we all blew the frigging roof off from minute one to eighty but it's going to take more than a drum and a song sheet to achieve that.

Giving it the "Big Mister" dear me, i can understand you have read this a lot but i cant understand why you have such a problem with other fans trying to make a difference, im sure in the past you have sang etc but you have to be honest with yourself the atmosphere at the Galpharm is utter rubbish gives, and dont pretend it isnt. It may be due to the fact that i love to sing at Town games and i want to carry on theat with the Giants games as i know if we dont we will lose the younger generations as especially young lads enjoy a good sing sondg etc fo they may wel ditch rugby and go to Football. I am looking at the bigger picture rather than just now, however we need to start to change how things are.

Dont have a go at me for saying what i think, i dont care how old you are age is not a issue the issue is how to get fans to sing and create a atmosphere and if all your going to do is have a go at me and the other fans for wanting some change well i feel sorry for you mate as im sure you want the best for the club but maybe you are doing it the wrong way. But a few ideas never hurts anyone.

I'm doing it the wrong way? And criticising folk on a message board is the right way is eh? I think you need to check your own posts before you get all precious if I 'have a go at you'. Feel sorry for yourself, not me. You're the new generation of fan and you don't even know all the songs! You seem to have confused 'trying to make a difference' with 'lecturing people on a message board'.



A drum wont work. Half the people hate them, as this thread has shown. A song sheet wont help because the singing section of the crowd is peppered out now as the crowds have grown and the newer ones are recalcitrant with regards to singing. The problem isn't going to be solved by lecturing people on here, is it. You need to find a way to engage these quiet, misery guts type fans so that they choose to get involved. How do you do that then, Einstein? Find the answer to that one and you will get what you want.



It's easy to say things need to change but it's going to take more than a drum and a song sheet. ATEOTD you're the new generation so stop moaning and start doing. We old farty types do our bit and have done for years.

Sorry but i am attempting to help, what you mean when i said the singing section dont sing enough, well they dont its just fact. I have supported Huddersfield all my life and i do know all the songs thank you very much, whats wrong trying to help the club, the whole point of forums is to discus these kind of things aint they? In the past i have sugested certain singing sections where everyone should sit etc and a few seam up for it yet most dont want change yet expect somthing to happen and it wont until we do this as a group as big as possible which im sure you will agree with. I dont understand why you are having such a go at me when i have not done anything wrong, i have only said what a lot of people think. saying our fans dont sing enough is true and you dont seam to be able to live with it. No need to have a go at me.