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| What puzzles me about that incident is how Leeds got a scrum out of it...the ref was clearly heard talking to the VR about a mistake being made as to whose scrum it was when in the first instance the scrum was given to Warrington then given to Leeds. As we know the tackle was deemed to be fair by the VR, so if there was no offside, according to the VR, & no Leeds knock on it was a perfectly good try.
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| from a wigan fan
congratulations best team won on the day ,had a great weekend well done
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| Why are folk still debating the Delaney No-Try? The rules are really quite straightforward, and its easy to surmise the ref's call:
Fair tackle --> Hodgson spills ball (1st knock on) --> Leuluai fumbles ball (2nd knock on) --> Scrum Attack (Leeds ball)
Delaney's offside doesn't even enter into it. The only confusion I see is the screen saying Scrum Defence and Silverpud awarding Scrum Attack, thus changing the judging (quite correctly). Here endeth the lesson.
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| Quote Rocky Bobby="Rocky Bobby"Why are folk still debating the Delaney No-Try? The rules are really quite straightforward, and its easy to surmise the ref's call:
Fair tackle --> Hodgson spills ball (1st knock on) --> Leuluai fumbles ball (2nd knock on) --> Scrum Attack (Leeds ball)
Delaney's offside doesn't even enter into it. The only confusion I see is the screen saying Scrum Defence and Silverpud awarding Scrum Attack, thus changing the judging (quite correctly). Here endeth the lesson.'"
We had the ball so Leeds were defending, Scrum Defence was the correct decision on the screen. All pretty clear cut and a little irritating that much of the media is reporting the incident as if Leeds were denied a legitimate try.
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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"We had the ball so Leeds were defending, Scrum Defence was the correct decision on the screen. All pretty clear cut and a little irritating that much of the media is reporting the incident as if Leeds were denied a legitimate try.'"
Yep. Language be a funny bugger - spot on.
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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"We had the ball so Leeds were defending, Scrum Defence was the correct decision on the screen. All pretty clear cut and a little irritating that much of the media is reporting the incident as if Leeds were denied a legitimate try.'"
I agree with both the above, it seems uninformed comment plus people that have not seen the replay of the incident.
And in any case, it would have made no difference to the result if a try had been allowed. Leeds simply didn't have the belief, the game plan or the personnel out there to win.
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| The Ratchford effort should have been a try.
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"What puzzles me about that incident is how Leeds got a scrum out of it...the ref was clearly heard talking to the VR about a mistake being made as to whose scrum it was when in the first instance the scrum was given to Warrington then given to Leeds. As we know the tackle was deemed to be fair by the VR, so if there was no offside, according to the VR, & no Leeds knock on it was a perfectly good try.'"
Hodgson knocks on 1st
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| Quote Bobby Digital="Bobby Digital"The Ratchford effort should have been a try.'"
Finally someone picked up on that, yes it should of been there was no knock on anywhere in the build..
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| How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !
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| Quote Who are ya!!="Who are ya!!"Finally someone picked up on that, yes it should of been there was no knock on anywhere in the build..'"
Hahaha after watching it again I was thinking Why on earth has that not been mentioned on here, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it and had we gone 12 - 0 up that early it could have become a blowout scoreline.
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| Quote PADDERS="PADDERS"How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !'"
100% correct
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