I've never heard such a load of in all my life. To suggest that a proffessional sportsmans ego is that fragile that it can be shattered by the fans reacting badly when they continually play with no passion. Bollocks. Sooo it's the fans fault we're crap. Tell you what, let's all stay away from the games & see if they improve.



Did Leeds play that way against us because they got hammered by Manley - no they went 12-0 up in the first couple of minutes. Any team with a squad with half a backbone will bounce back.



This isn't kiddy amateur stuff where winning isn't a word that's allowed to be spoken. Wolves are a business same as any other & these people are trained proffessionals paid to get results.



There's much wrong with Warrington that's stopping experienced proffessionals playing to their potential. That's something that Smith can do. It'll take about another month IMO as in effect they are re-doing their pre-season to play they way he will want them to.



There's also the team spirit problem. All the players that Skents talks to come out with the party line "Confidence is high, we have let the coach down". Well if confidence is so high amongst the players then why the hell did you fork out for motivational coaches the week before the Leeds game Mr Gatcliffe ?



They need to stop the out of hours nonesence. Let's not sweep it under the carpet & pretend it doesn't exist. It's been talked about on Sky, and by the BBC so it should be fair conversation here. It's singularly the biggest problem we have. The impact on personal performance & drives a wedge between them & those who are dedicated athletes.

and booing the players every game helps this or hinders this?



if you are a current or former professional sportsman steve then i will honestly hold my hands up and accept what you say (not a dig btw) about it not affecting them but otherwise i stand by what i say



we constantly complain that the team does't have pride in the shirt and doesn't play for the club but for me the biggest representation of the "club" is the fans and if all the fans ever do is get on their back why would they bother doing anything but play for themselves and their paycheck?



they need to enjoy their rugby and if i was on a pitch being booed by the people supposedly supporting me i wouldn't enjoy it

I think the answer lies here -



Points conceded



Catalans - 40

Wakefield - 48

Harlequins- 60



Compare that to



Saints - 26

Leeds - 20



There were few complaints after the latter games because at least there was some effort. To concede 148 points against Catalans, Wakefield and Quins is appalling, and it's no wonder people are booing.

thats what im saying its a vicious circle... they play badly we boo, they get downhearted and play worse, we boo more

see how the team go for the rest of the season,then allow the changes that need to be made be made.

tony smith knows who needs to go and what type of player needs to come in,we are fortunate enough to have the financial backing to do this.

it has not been good enough and desperately needs to improve but for now we have to support the players even though we don't feel like it,you follow the team through thick and thin,but the club should be aware that fans are falling away because they have had enough of embarrassing defeats like yesterdays.

we have finally got a good coach and he needs to be given this season to sort this bunch out,i really hope he can.

come on wire.

We're talking about professional sportsmen here. Do you honestly think the likes of Briers, Gleeson, King, Monaghan etc get downhearted and play worse if the fans boo?



They need to understand why the fans are unhappy - then do something about it.

yes mate i do



and can i just pull you up on something...we are in the middle of lambasting the players for not being professional on one front but then expecting them to act professionally when we lambast them for not being professional!



do you think it is a good environment for winning trophies when all the players hate the fans?

That's one thing I am struggling to get my head around. How does he do his mini pre-season when he is preparing for a game every week?

Ok on the first point. Don't give people reason to boo & they won't. Simple.









There's small changes already in place. Lowes stated many times he beleived a team should have an 80 minute hooker. He also went for bulk, 5 drives & a kick. All Smiths teams are based on ball playing forwards & quick play the ball.



Smith will use an interchange, plus in training they will do more work on getting the ball played faster, hitting the collision & almost dropping to knees & elbows.

ever heard of a saying same crap different season......

we need to show the club that its not the fans fault and show the team that we want them to play to the best of their ability by giving encouragment. booing is not the way as we have found out.



dont go to the match in negative thought and hope that TS will do his side of the bargain and get the best 17 out there and play for 80 mins against a very good HullKR team

Deja vu?