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| Quote Dico="Dico"I could see pretty clearly how many were Crusaders and it was a close run thing between them and Bradford.
Also the south was no where near full for the Crusaders but Bradford it was packed.
It's really unfair to compare 2009 with this year as yes, Bridgend was a disaster.
There were NO free tickets given out for the Leeds game and for the Hull game they actually sold more tickets than turned up, the weather in north wales for people travelling up until lunch time was awful.
I think we should be expanding 30 miles at a time, satellite expansion just does not work here, we aren't australia.'"
I agree with moderate expansion like you suggest. Remember we had a strong team in Sheffield until the powers that be shafted them royally.
I think the South packed for Bradford and not for Crusaders may be due to the cheap tickets. I never have a season ticket but turn up when I feel (which is usually all the time). I was in the south for Bradford and the West for Crusaders as it was £14 less for me and the missus. I wonder how many other wire fans without season tickets did the same?
Anyway if Brigend was a disaster (and I don't disagree) where does that put Harlequins? |
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up sh*t creek tbh
Something SERIOUSLY needs to change there, shame because they're packed full of young english players.
Maybe we should be allowing them time like Cas in 08 and maybe they'll have the same turnaround in fortune, can't see it though.
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| Quote Dico="Dico"up sh*t creek tbh
Something SERIOUSLY needs to change there, shame because they're packed full of young english players.
Maybe we should be allowing them time like Cas in 08 and maybe they'll have the same turnaround in fortune, can't see it though.'"
You will be heartened to know that it is the 30th anniversary of the expansionist experiment in London this year.... |
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To me they're the big success story of expansion during the Super League era, but I don't really get the point of this thread. Who exactly isn't showing their fans enough respect?
BTW I'd call them Catalan rather than French.
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| Quote FireWire="FireWire"To me they're the big success story of expansion during the Super League era, but I don't really get the point of this thread. Who exactly isn't showing their fans enough respect?
BTW I'd call them Catalan rather than French.'"
I'll reiterate, that it's not that they are not shown respect but i was putting it out there that they actually deserve more credit than they get |
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| Quote FireWire="FireWire"To me they're the big success story of expansion during the Super League era, but I don't really get the point of this thread. Who exactly isn't showing their fans enough respect?
BTW I'd call them Catalan rather than French.'"
I didn't get the respect thing either. You are also bob-on about the Catalan thing too. I've spent a lot of time in Spain and know that in the Catalan region they do not consider themselves Spanish. |
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"I'll reiterate, that it's not that they are not shown respect but i was putting it out there that they actually deserve more credit than they get'"
The title did indicate "more respect", with respect. |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Fair do's. Only 2 home games though in Leeds and Hull bolstered by a lot of furore, free tickets and zealous Red Hall support.
Let's consider the average attendance for the teams you mention in 2009 shall we.
Catalans - 9,159
Hull KR - 8,501
Castleford - 7,489
Wakefield - 5,892
Salford - 4,467
Crusaders - 3,668
Harlequins - 3,436
You make my "expansionism doesn't work as there is not the support base to justify it not least when you consider you are taking the place of the likes of Leigh, Widnes etc" point for me. The farce surrounding your move from the Valleys to 32.8 miles from Widnes doesn't help either.
I wish you no harm (if you are a Crusader) but honestly don't think you deserve a place in the elite league of northern hemisphere RL when there are so many better qualified teams staking a place before you.'"
No Harm or offence taken for I am I Wire fan.
I do agree that there figures maybe a bit favorable but i'd much rather see a club with a 6k+ attendance bolstered by cheap / free tickets, than 3k paying full price. Salford and Quins attendances have been nothing short of pathetic so far this year and they've had more time than Crusaders to create a fan base. I for one was against Crusaders inclusion into the league over Widnes last year, but have been impressed with how they've developed so far this year taking into account the move to Wrexham, I just hope they can keep it up. |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"The title did indicate "more respect", with respect.'"
i respect that |
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| Quote Dico="Dico"up sh*t creek tbh
Something SERIOUSLY needs to change there, =#BF0000shame because they're packed full of young english players.
Maybe we should be allowing them time like Cas in 08 and maybe they'll have the same turnaround in fortune, can't see it though.'"
Young, English players who just aren't good enough. |
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| Quote FireWire="FireWire"To me they're the big success story of expansion during the Super League era, but I don't really get the point of this thread. Who exactly isn't showing their fans enough respect?
=#BF0000BTW I'd call them Catalan rather than French.'"
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