You're philosophy is dead right. Unfortunately its easier to scream, shout and criticise for some.

i agree i actually have this awful feeling that it is the fans that are killing this club not the players and nothing is going to change to the point when the only players willing to even come and play for us are the downright mercenaries with no interest in the club itself



if you were a player would you want to come here with the fans acting the way they do?

No, the players only have to look back to last weekend...They played with commitment and enthusiasm and still lost.



The fans stayed at the end and still applauded and cheered them.



Thats all the fans are asking, but then this weekend they played with no desire to win, no enthusiasm and no commitment...what do they expect us to do appluad that kind of performance.

How many threads are there saying things along the lines of ' drop the lot of them and play the reserves - at least they show heart and pride'? Yet what happens when those youngsters come through and play? Penny, Riley - will never be good enough according to our supporters.



The reserves have got a good team spirit and play with pride and passion. I wouldn't want to break that by forcing them all to play in front of our crowd when they're not ready! Unfortunately there is no quick fix for us.

One of the biggest differences for me watching both teams yesterday (The Reserves and then the first team) is how much the reserves play for each other.



The reserves congratulate each other, they shake hands with each other, they pat each other on the back or give each other a little rub of the head.



The first team did not do this.....makes me wonder.

could`nt make it up could you...so its our fault we concede more than 35 points a game...nowt to do with that rabble that go onto the field...i must av it wrong

match 1 v Saints : confident start, lacked in fitness (Lowes admitted) : end result defeat : low confidence



match 2 v Catalans : low confidence going into match continued, decent second half : end result defeat : lower confidence



match 3 v Wakefield : low confidence going into match, blitzed by Wakefield in first half, very decent in spells in 2nd half : end result big defeat : confidence rock bottom



match 4 v Leeds : confident display (after first 10 mins) and a game that Leeds were eventually very lucky to have won : end result defeat and confidence shook again



match 5 v Quinns : low confidence going into match, etc



I think the confidence issue (as in reasoning) speaks for itself., the Leeds match was a confidence-killer for Warrington (viz the narrow manner of defeat) just as our Saints matches are and traditionally post Saints games we hit a low point

dont forget the last 6 games from last season

I disagree. Confidence should have been restored after the Leeds game. The players should have known they threw that game away in the first five minutes, and then won the contest for the remaining 75, against the current champions.

how about just sack some of em

that was last season, why do people keep dragging it up. last season is over/dead and buried, lets judge on this season and with saying that to date we are crap, but will still be their next week

come on u wire

Why should we ignore last year? We have now lost the last 10 competitive games we have played, which is the worst in the history of the club. There is no benefit in burying our head in the sand.