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| Quote Hartster="Hartster"The writer of the story is a close associate of Dave 'Nosey' Parker. Geoff Sweet has written RL stories before.
Two questions I had for my first RLFans post were;
[size=150Is Leaf so bereft of any common sense and has simply been bubbled and set up[/size because he's a serial and blatant offender? Is it that Leaf is happy to be part of the undercover 'investigation' and was paid a few quid to play a role in order to expose an RFL official? To be so complicit in a piece does seem very strange.
Why wasn't the RFL official named? Were they part of the set up on Leaf or is it being held as leverage?
Either way, coverage of the wrong sort.'"
The guy got set up my a team mate, it will all come out in the wash!
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"If players are betting on their teams to lose in the Super League, Championship 1 or 2 then fans are going to wonder what's the point in seeing something that isn't a contest? '"
Apart from the comments of one idiot, where's the proof that is happening?
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| The article is precisely the sort of gutter "journalism" you expect from the Sun and in normal circumstances the RFL would have 2 options.
1 Mount a vigorous defence against the more outrageous claims through the courts and the PCC.
2 Ignore as it will become tomorrows fish and chip wrappers.
However isn't it strange that the TV contract is up and Sky (prop R Murdoch) will be bidding for it? An article in the Sun (prop R Murdoch) designed to devalue RL just happens to come now. Classic good cop, bad cop from Murdoch no doubt designed to drive down the price of the next TV contract.
Remember Murdoch heads an organisation that has conducted extensive illegal phone hacking and has consistently proven that no depth is too low for it to sink to.
Food for thought.
And on the betting angle, I would love to see the RFL taking strong steps to eliminate the availability of betting on the game, there is simply too much trouble when sport and gambling get together as the number of scandals in all kinds of sports have shown.
Perhaps they could start by removing betting organisations as sponsors in RL- I can think of at least one club the accepts this grubby money.
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"The article is precisely the sort of gutter "journalism" you expect from the Sun and in normal circumstances the RFL would have 2 options.
1 Mount a vigorous defence against the more outrageous claims through the courts and the PCC.
2 Ignore as it will become tomorrows fish and chip wrappers.
However isn't it strange that the TV contract is up and Sky (prop R Murdoch) will be bidding for it? An article in the Sun (prop R Murdoch) designed to devalue RL just happens to come now. Classic good cop, bad cop from Murdoch no doubt designed to drive down the price of the next TV contract.
Remember Murdoch heads an organisation that has conducted extensive illegal phone hacking and has consistently proven that no depth is too low for it to sink to.
Food for thought.
And on the betting angle, I would love to see the RFL taking strong steps to eliminate the availability of betting on the game, there is simply too much trouble when sport and gambling get together as the number of scandals in all kinds of sports have shown.
Perhaps they could start by removing betting organisations as sponsors in RL- I can think of at least one club the accepts this grubby money.'"
Does News really need to use a barely known lower league player as part of it's valuing of the next deal? I'd have thought the latest Gleeson episode, the Hock drug ban, the late Terry Newton etc would be sufficient if such an agenda were being followed!!
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"And on the betting angle, I would love to see the RFL taking strong steps to eliminate the availability of betting on the game, there is simply too much trouble when sport and gambling get together as the number of scandals in all kinds of sports have shown.'"
How does that work then? Whether it's football, cricket, snooker or whatever, the 'corruption' and 'scandals' involve by far the minority involved within. And on cricket, it's not the betting with the big firms where the 'fix' comes in. And, again, there is no match fixing proved by this story at all, just a bloke having an opinion on his team.
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| Quote Hartster="Hartster"Does News really need to use a barely known lower league player as part of it's valuing of the next deal? I'd have thought the latest Gleeson episode, the Hock drug ban, the late Terry Newton etc would be sufficient if such an agenda were being followed!!'"
They are yesterdays news, "news" need fresh manure.
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| Quote t-r-i-n-i-t-y="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"How does that work then? Whether it's football, cricket, snooker or whatever, the 'corruption' and 'scandals' involve by far the minority involved within. And on cricket, it's not the betting with the big firms where the 'fix' comes in. And, again, there is no match fixing proved by this story at all, just a bloke having an opinion on his team.'"
All I am saying is that bookmakers are made unwelcome. They bring nothing positive as this very story shows - that bet itself was legal as regards UK law. The ongoing Tandy case in Aus involves legal bookmakers.
You won't of course stop determined individuals from betting, but at least make it hard for them and certainly don't advertise them.
Then again as I write this a banner ad for a bookie is flashing next to me 
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"This is absolutely awful for the credibility of the British game with the attitude some of the RL players have. How can we attract credible sponsors and bumper TV deals when stories like this are out there?
The RFL have FAILED to protect the credibility of the game when they didn't hand out life bans to Sean Long and Martin Gleeson. The RFL have to be VERY heavy-handed with this. This lad should be given a life ban from the game. They should conduct a thorough investigation and make a statement on the matter. To set an example and send a warning to anyone in the game who fancies a bet on their own team. We need to protect the credibility of the game. If players are betting on their teams to lose in the Super League, Championship 1 or 2 then fans are going to wonder what's the point in seeing something that isn't a contest? It shouldn't matter what competition you play in, how big a name you are or how old you are. You threaten the integrity of the game with something like this and you're banned from playing the game for life. No excuses, no exceptions.'"
Give over and get a grip.
Football gets mega sponsorship and continues. Yet the game has been found guilty of the following - The murder of refs, the murder of players, too many betting scandals to mention, massive corruption within FIFA - nearer to home, sex scandals involving old and young prostitutes, drugs, drink driving offences galore, assaults on and off the pitch, other sexual misdemeanors... need I go on.
All this and you cr*p yourself over a small scale betting offence - by giving the story that much credibility all you are doing is fueling it!
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"All I am saying is that bookmakers are made unwelcome. They bring nothing positive as this very story shows - that bet itself was legal as regards UK law. The ongoing Tandy case in Aus involves legal bookmakers.
You won't of course stop determined individuals from betting, but at least make it hard for them and certainly don't advertise them.
Then again as I write this a banner ad for a bookie is flashing next to me
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Todd Carney sponsored by Castlemaine.
Gareth Hock sponsored by the Betty Ford clinic.
Joel Monaghan sponsored by Battersea Dogs home.
Regardless of what you  into playersheads there will alwyas be exceptions. Wonder how much actually comes in to RL through bookies paying for advertising. Anyone any ideas? im sure its a hefty sum.
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"All I am saying is that bookmakers are made unwelcome. They bring nothing positive as this very story shows - that bet itself was legal as regards UK law. The ongoing Tandy case in Aus involves legal bookmakers.
You won't of course stop determined individuals from betting, but at least make it hard for them and certainly don't advertise them.
Then again as I write this a banner ad for a bookie is flashing next to me
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Even though the club I support are sponsored by a betting company I would prefer if they did not(it is the only reason I have not bought a shirt) I would support the RFL if they banned all betting conections from the game & prevented the use of the sports names or results being used for gambling. Gambling is a blight on our society & a cause of endless missery & crime around the world. In my view it is as bad as drugs & would be as dificult to eradicate, but Rugby league should set a lead in eradicating this dissgrace.
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| It would have been more suspicious if he had tipped Doncaster to win a game.
Any game.
Why hasn't this been locked yet?????
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"Even though the club I support are sponsored by a betting company I would prefer if they did not(it is the only reason I have not bought a shirt) I would support the RFL if they banned all betting conections from the game & prevented the use of the sports names or results being used for gambling. Gambling is a blight on our society & a cause of endless missery & crime around the world. In my view it is as bad as drugs & would be as dificult to eradicate, but Rugby league should set a lead in eradicating this dissgrace.'"
Only in Nevada and Delaware is it legal to bet on NFL games in the US. I'd be so bold as to suggest however that a huge market exists for betting on the NFL in the other 48 states, just that it's done "under the counter" or through unlicenced bookies, which offers the consumer zero protection from getting ripped off and the proceeds ending up in criminal hands.
Even if the RFL were somehow able to ban betting on rugby league games (not that I'm for one minute advocating that they do), how would they enforce it? I'm pretty sure they don't have the legal power to tell the likes of William Hill what they can and can't offer markets on, and even if they did how would they enforce it in these days of online and offshore betting?
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