Personally I have never seen the point of fighting with opposition fans at a rugby game. It won't change what happens on the pitch or the score on the scoreboard to why bother?

Organised hooliganism has nothing to do with whatever sport they attach themselves to, it's just an excuse for people who want to have a ruck to get together and do it.

I witnessed an 80 - 100 person riot outside the Halliwell Jones when Wigan played this season. Shocking scenes.

They were not people!!!

My uncle told me a story about a fight at Thrum Hall once starting after a Hull fan grabbed a toy Fax bear from the hands of one of our (very) young fans and ripped its head off

look if you have a few thousand people some loved up on cola n lemonade then by the laws of average you will at times get fisticuffs . Ive seen a few times trouble at belle vue post and pre SL era . Wire , Hull FC , Hull KR , Fev , Fax , Salford , Huddersfield and wigan spring to mind .



Wire wakey fan shoved behind the cop knocking kid to floor lead top wakey and wire fans giving him a good hiding.



Hull FC started on wakey fans leaving boulevarde for no reason





KR perm any one of 5 one that sticks in mind is throwing the large metal bins on the field after we qualified for the 1st div GF , a few arrested . To add to this about 3 years ago some idiot KR fan thought it would be good to attack the oasis club not realising it was full of body builders high on adrenaline.



Fev mainly fight amongst themselves (talk about keep it in the family

) remember once horse backed coppers and the plod storming the kop end with a fev fan who encroached the field and ran about 85 meters before being taken down by a good tackle and a very embarrassed PC as he got a standing ovation.



Fax not sure what kicked it of but it was when we played overden in the cup.



salford , knobbers from monty's bar (Leeds UTD) attacking salford fans leaving match ...although nothing to do with WTW.



Huddersfield read above for salford , huddersfield fan took a pasting i tried to stop my car as i was leaving telling the poor lad toi just go home and not to retaliate . the pub was full of these morons.



wigan a few years ago whilst a wigan fan was leaving a wakey chav gobbed him the wigan fan started to attack him so the wakey fan shoved my little lad who was 5 at the time to the ground injuring his legh ...first time ever ive come close to smacking someone myself at a game thankfully i got held back but it just goes to show how easy these things can go bang.



although ive mentioned the above in 25 years plus i dont think that's a bad return , when i go up town on a friday night i see violence every time.

You are disillusioned. That book only recounts a small percentage of the violence at matches spanning back from the 70`s till now. Believe me, there were many, many nasty scenes. On a par with what was witnessed at football. I don`t condone violence (I`m a lover not a fighter

) but you can`t dismiss the facts or history.

i remember fighting spilling on to the field during half time at headingley between cas and hull fans in the 92 challenge cup semi final,serious enough to make the front page of the yep and calander news at the time.



more recently their was trouble when cas made the trip up to cumbria to play whitehaven.

Remember both incidents, the headingley trouble im certain was started by Hull City hooligans.



It looked like it was organised.

That's complete nonsense. Crowd trouble at RL games was not remotely on a par with what happened in football in the 1970s or 80s. How many RL fans died in this violence? How many arrests were there? How many matches were attended by thousands of policemen? How many grounds introduced segregation and steel fences?



I've certainly seen plenty of nasty stuff inside and outside RL grounds, the Widnes/Warrington Premiership semi in 1988 being the most large-scale incident, but it was not even 1% of what was happening in football at the same time.

The worst i've experienced and hopefully last was at Keighley vs. Hull late 90's i think. The Hull fans weren't too happy throughout the first half, which resulted in the crowd surging forward and knocking down the sponsor barriers. They calmed down in the second half if i remember rightly after repeated warnings over the tannoy.

I can agree with JonM about the premiership semi. There were skirmishes in Widnes before the game and running battles inside the ground before half time.



It was at half time when things really went off when the Warrington fans went onto the pitch to change ends. Widnes fans who had been 'charged' out of the cowsheds had moved around the side of the ground and got onto the pitch from the terraces next to the main stand and met with Warrington fans on the pitch. What ensued really was a pitch battle with sets of fans from all sides of the ground spilling onto the field fighting went on for some time with the testart being delayed for 15 - 20 mins. Trouble continued through the town after the game.



The catalyst for the trouble was an incident in Warrington town centre after 'The Roller Rink' - anyone remember that? There had also been trouble for a few weeks before in and around 'the rink' and word had spread that Widnes lads shouldn't go on a certain Friday night as Warrington lads were to be there en masse. It was true as when us Widnes lads were making our way back to Central Station under police escort, Warrington lads 'en masse' as had been promised poured out of The Golden Square area and ran at us. The coppers even said the best thing to do was run for it.

One Widnes lad got stabbed twice - he was ok - I saw him on Saturday night just gone! A certain person who was at the time an Everton hooligan from Widnes arranged for his 'friends' from Everton to come over for the Premiership semi final promising that there would be little in the way of police and they could do practically what they want. Rumour has it that some Warrington fans were slashed on the pitch but I'm unsure how true this is.



I wasn't involved in any of the trouble as I too am a lover not a fighter, I was just a Widnes fan and a Roller Rink fan ( or at least the girls who used to go there).



Lots of little scuffles mainly with Cas, Fev and Leeds in the 80's/90's. But the Warrington prem semi was as bad as it gets.