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| Back to the original post, I think it would be a good idea to give clubs ramping-up time, so warning them two years ahead that they'll get promoted.
TO have been very bad at this, there are lots of top players that they could have signed that they havn't. Too conservative for mine.
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| I expect to see Toulouse and Widnes in next time around with Salford/Crusaders/Wakefield dropping out unless they improve.
Widnes would be like another Hull KR but in a better stadium and Toulouse would be another Catalans, maybe even better.
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| Quote pyeman="pyeman"I actually agree with you dally, obviously this is long term but we should be aiming for a french fulltime league (with a semi pro tier for those that cant make the grade) that eventually will add teams from places like spain, italy, germany and belgium. At the same time sl could become a league dedicated to supporting teams from around the british isles. i would then have the playoffs merge, british teams could play the likes of les cats and toulouse etc to decide who was the best club in europe (winner of whcih can play the world club challenge).
In the long run i hope the aussies bring in more kiwi teams (and a team from png), so that they can set up there own league.'"
hey we agree 100% on something.
bound to happen eventually.
get the french up to scratch then use the spots for british expansion (ie not heartland clubs)
places like gateshead / newcastle, south yorkshire, midlands, and one day scotland, ireland and wales (again). thats a very long time away.
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| Quote The Dors="The Dors"That's what I've said all along. It's alright babysitting a few French teams, when do they go back and fend for themselves?'"
lets give it a fair amount of time to work, lets say when the east stand is finsihed at the shay
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| Quote rs="rs"Often published gates in France are fanciful at best - the two times I went I would say there were about 1,000 home fans on each occasion.'"
maybe the french should get you to count the crowds then instead of their people. did you get much time to actually watch the rugby
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| Quote jesus-is-coming="jesus-is-coming"Hello ...knock knock ...anything in that wooden nugget of yours
If the americans could not set up there wlaf league [world league american football and all there billions what bloody hope do we have
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but weve got jesus on our side, eh jesus?
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| Quote rs="rs"Often published gates in France are fanciful at best - the two times I went I would say there were about 1,000 home fans on each occasion.'"
Did you count everyone each time? I'll go by official figures thanks, not the opinion of someone who doesn't want them in the league.
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| Quote The Dors="The Dors"That's what I've said all along. It's alright babysitting a few French teams, when do they go back and fend for themselves?'"
Last time I checked, it was a European Super League. They have every right to enter the league. You can call it babysitting all you like, but it is not an English league.
It would be good to be in a position to have a French League at pro level, but it isn't just going to happen on its own due to the level of the sport there.
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| its true though, they do exaggerate.
I don't have that as fact but you can get an idea and when the crowds are published it's a bit hmm
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| Quote jesus-is-coming="jesus-is-coming"Why the fook do we need another two blooming french teams!!!
Do the overated overaged aussies need another couple of retirement homes???
Radical thought lets have two more english teams ...who knows they may produce english players...flippn eck how radical'"
The 12 English teams we have at the moment barely produce many decent English players. Why have more? Just because more are playing doesn't make them any good.
Plus, where is the money coming from for these two extra English teams? The point I was making (before you spouted your anti-French b*llocks) was that if a FRENCH TV company were to make a deal for SL rights (i.e. enough to fund the inclusion of more teams from France). Do you think French TV will want more English teams for the extra money they'd want to put in?
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"lets give it a fair amount of time to work, lets say when the east stand is finsihed at the shay'"
So, next month then? 
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