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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"I think that's optimistic, given that the visa process will have to be re-started, after a trial which won't finish until early May at best.'" 2 days are set aside for the trial the 27th and 28th of April. |
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"Given how drawn out the visa process has become, and how drawn out a court case in the public eye might be, is there a strong likelihood that he'll never actually get here even if he isn't convicted? If cleared he's free to plaay in the NRL in 2010 after all.'" It's a 2 day trial that's whats been set aside. |
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my mate is emigrating to oz and people are NOT allowed in there if they have a court case pending.if they are cleared then fine.
why should we treat them any differently?
nothing against bird or the bulls but i feel that is the correct way to go
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"my mate is emigrating to oz and people are NOT allowed in there if they have a court case pending.if they are cleared then fine.
why should we treat them any differently?
nothing against bird or the bulls but i feel that is the correct way to go'"
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"my mate is emigrating to oz and people are NOT allowed in there if they have a court case pending.if they are cleared then fine.
why should we treat them any differently?
nothing against bird or the bulls but i feel that is the correct way to go'" Emigrating and coming over to play sport for 1 or 2 years is a totally different thing IMO. |
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The Law states that you are innocent 'til proved guilty but that is not always the case because for some offences, passports and other documents have to be surrendered, turning the law on it's head guilty 'til proved innocent. If a legal ruling in either UK or Australia says he can't exit his current residence then that is final until his court appearance and every thing else is irrelevant.
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| Quote redeverready wrote
The trouble is it's not even the same. Crocker and Carney were refused because of convictions. Bird has been refused because he might be convicted.['"
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the refusals are not based solely on convictions or charges but on the catch all of not been conducive to the common good.
If the do not want someone coming in because of their past behaviour it is all the same if they are convicted, just charged , acquitted or whatever.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Quote Durham Giantredeverready wrote
The trouble is it's not even the same. Crocker and Carney were refused because of convictions. Bird has been refused because he might be convicted.['"
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the refusals are not based solely on convictions or charges but on the catch all of not been conducive to the common good.
If the do not want someone coming in because of their past behaviour it is all the same if they are convicted, just charged , acquitted or whatever.
Therefore it is exactly the same.
'" That's all well and good but if Bird is found not guilty his past behavior is irrelevant as he's been judged on it by a jury of his peers and deemed acceptable. |
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Ridiculous decision.
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It is to be hoped that Birds criminal lawyer takes advice from an immigration lawyer as to which charges are fatal for a visa application. What may seem from a criminal point of view as being minor can be devastating to an immigration application. Lying to the Police (Moral Turpitude in the States) is the worse of the charges, immigration wise.
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"That's all well and good but if Bird is found not guilty his past behavior is irrelevant as he's been judged on it by a jury of his peers and deemed acceptable.'"
Even if he is acquitted he does not automatically get a right of entry. He can be refused because it is deemed that it is not in the common good.
If Britain did not want Ghandi or Nelson Mandela to come here they can stop them regardless of convictions.
Britain could not take him because he has been sacked/ suspended by his club. That would be reason enough |
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Even if he is acquitted he does not automatically get a right of entry. He can be refused because it is deemed that it is not in the common good.
If Britain did not want Ghandi or Nelson Mandela to come here they can stop them regardless of convictions.
Britain could not take him because he has been sacked/ suspended by his club. That would be reason enough'"
 You write nothing but tripe. He hasn't been sacked, or suspended. He signed an agreement not to play for another club so that he could be released, hardly a sacking or suspension.  |
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