OK. Supply examples to justify your ludicrous claims.

I vaguely recall saying exactly the same about a Leeds player circa 1996.

Bailey can be very good but he's not consistent enough for Leeds, and he's not really lived up to the potential he had as a youngster. On the balance I think I'd like to keep him (not least given that we've just brought Moore in).

I'm not going to rise to your bait. Just because my opinions differ from yours does not make them "ludicrous". They are my opinions and, I really couldn't care less what you think about them.

There's no bait dangled. You say

I am struggling to think of any instances in recent years. He has had a couple of skirmishes, so what? Most forwards have. Your post just seems like another in a long line of posts where it is fashionable to slag TMFMISL without any justification.
FWIW I believe Steve Menzies used to carry a knife in his shorts & frequently would stab other players & attempt to kill them. I do not have to justify my opinion.

Why any of you would favour yet another Leeds cast off is beyond me... Scruton is hardly a world beater, although Diskin has played through injury, his overall performances have been lacking (with a few top performances in there somewhere) Chev Walker's injury status speaks for itself... I for one believe we have the type of prop everyone is specifying in Tom B... May not be 'nasty' but makes himself known when its needed, Bailey is a disgrace to the game and for me there are principles and he deserves to go back jail... ask Kevin Brown if Bailey is dirty player... Case closed!

Another Leeds cast off like Jimmy Lowes? Ok

To bag Scruton and Diskin in mitigation is sheer lunacy.

Tom B v Bailey? Pffft.

A disgrace to the game? Why is that? He also never went to jail. Factually incorrect.

What are these principles? Legal ones? Do they also apply to Des Drummond, Joe Lydon, Rangi Chase, Chev Walker, Greg Bird, Sonny Bill Williams, Martin Aspinwall, Todd Carney, Jarryd Hayne, Benny Elias, Mal Meninga, Barrie McDermott, Anthony Watts etc?

Kevin Brown is a windy foooker who was licked for being a div. Simples.

Some quite marvelous opinions being thrown about by some, based on very little, or more specifically, utter nonsense. Standard

What a great first post.

Bugger, hoped it wasn't just me having a hetherington of a day

You might, if the aforementioned Mr Menzies sees it and passes it on to his lawyers................

I believe.

maybe factually incorrect but you know the incident being referred to. whilst he wasnt sent to 'jail' due to his age he was convicted.



Personally don't see why people are even dragging this up. Raynor has served time much more recently and people dont have a problem with him. IMO Baileys the type of niggly player that people hate when he plays for the opposition but love when he plays for them. Think tomkins,lowes,briers etc for other examples. Whether the penalties Bailey gains your team makes him a good signing is maybe debatable but comes down to personal opinion.