I have done a huge amount of voluntary work in the past, so was sceptical about what could be achieved through another fans organisation. Apart from the Burgii sponsorship what has been achieved relative to the amount of hours put in by willing supporters? I t would need total commitment from the club to make the partnership work, possibly they don't believe it would be worth that effort in the long run?

I wasnt thinking about a fans organisation where it is basically a talking shop where fans moan about what needs doing, then the club says it cant afford it etc....( i am definitely over simplyfying this and underselling the efforts of BISA and Bullbuilder)



i was talking about offering to do a couple of hours painting the terracing, or manning the phones, even stewarding on matchdays. things that people can do that currently costs the club money.

I guess the problem with volunteering for say something like Stewarding is ensuring enough numbers actually turned up!



I'd gladly volunteer some of my trade skills for the club. But I doubt more than a handful would turn up.

Don't get me wrong, the idea of a community club where everyone pitches in is my idea of heaven. It just seems alien to major RL clubs (AFAIK). Yawnion shamateur clubs seem to manage quite well, one of the very few things they could teach us.

As I said in the other thread, if the club prints me some flyers, I will offer to walk around Bradford posting these through letter boxes.

As I said in the other thread, if the club prints me some flyers, I will offer to walk around Bradford posting these through letter boxes.

One flyer per household should be sufficient Mick.

Skip the bad days, let somebody else pay for building up to the good days if they can. If not, and the club folds - well, who gives a shi=#FFFFFF[size=5.[/sizet? Answer - that's exactly the difference between a fan and a glory supporter.



And before you think I'm having a go - I'm not. I don't actually like the term "glory supporter", nobody has any obligation to go to games or indeed to spend their hard earned on anything at all. No, the difference is that a true supporter has an emotional attachment to the club, so they will tend to stick by it through the bad times, and the casual extras is what you hope to attract in numbers when times are good, but always recognising that they're just there for the good times.

The club are sending out 10 raffle tickets out for people to sell, if you wan't to help the club then sell these (or buy them yourself) and if they go easy ask for some more!





Good idea from the club imo.

I would say you are having a go. It is highly unlikely right throughout the clubs history any fans started to going when the team were playing poor. If some of these fans then decide that their money is better spent elsewhere that is their call. If they have put their money in to the club then they have a right to an opinion, it is up to the club to have a review of the last 3 - 4 years to sort themselves from top to bottom.

It starts from the top and filters down just like any workplace. Hood might have overseen the financial stability but he needs to be tougher, McNamara gets credit for the junior system. I suppose he deserves a bit of credit but that is then an injustice to the junior coaches and scouts who go and find these players and then develop them ready for first team.

I know a couple of people who started going last season.

Thought I might get a response like that. I am sure there are a few, but I am sure you get what I was saying.



Personally I was lucky enough to start going in home and away in 1985 (part time fan for a few years before) due to my dad being a lifelong fan, I then spent the next few years attending school in Halifax getting hammered by my mates while they were enjoying trips to Wembley.



I have being there during the good and bad times and will continue to do so. We are poor and we will not improve under Steve this year. Gardening leave for the rest of his contract a la Phil Brown, lets put a bit of pride back in to it and build for next year.



The wife is fully aware that should the Euro Millions come in I will be buying the club!