Unless there is significant changes to the cap that will allow Leigh, Fev, Fax to be full time, I can't see them getting promoted. I would love them to get promoted, I have always wanted promotion and relegation. But personally I cannot see it.



In reply to Starbug, the only people to come out with any credit from Bulls fiasco the last few years are the Bulls fans. They have stuck by their club through thick and thin. We have applauded our team off countless times when we have been mullered. However it's the lack of effort from the team that is really hurting the fans at the moment!



Anyway Starbug, some saints fans are wanting Brown out and they're top of the league!! I think we're quite patient myself

Sport and RL in particular unlike any other ' normal ' proffession requires massive physical effort combined with highly technical skill, all produced with somebody else doing their best to stop you, again both physically and technically, so to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous, to do so would be risking serious injury, not forgetting the immense pressure of financial and loyalty impossed by playing for a club that only exists due to its fan base

If your club ever becomes a farm club to Leeds then you'll know what a real storm is.And if your a real fan and a real bradfordian you'll know what real pain is.

It makes you physically sick when you read some of the shiit people write to try to justify it

Then Cummins himself is ridiculous, as he has said just that, for example re the Catalans debacle:







You are strangely looking at the game through rose tinted glasses. Your suggestion that no player in SL ever lacks effort in any game is simplistic, naive and simply not borne out by the evidence of our own eyes.

There seems to no belief in the team. It was nearly half time, when I think it was maybe embarrassment that took over, before too many in a Bulls' shirt actually ran or tackled with much conviction. Then we got the panicky, must score from every play, sort of moves which always end in finding some way to turn over the ball.



I try to be optimistic but it's getting really hard and I have to say it isn't just the team who have given up on staying in SL. SL is over for now but I'm sure we'll get back someday, things tend to go in circles..

Don't panic, your playing us next week.

Also I dont think enough credit has been given to the Devils who at last seem to be bonding under Iestyn Harris. Bulls could well beat HKR next week as we drew with them when not firing at all.

Yes, come on over and help yourself to two points. And improve your points difference.

Don't be so silly. Unless of course they do turn up next week, when we are playing them on Friday.

Anyone who has played sport or RL in particular, whether amateur or pro, knows when they or another player has not put in 100%. I generally tried very hard, some times harder than the week before. To compare the Wigan youngsters effort to some of the Bulls' performances is laughable.

Just out of interest, if there is anyone else to second Starbug's proposition that no pro RL player ever lacks effort, in any game?

I have a curious feeling FC will be sacked today.