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| Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Are you sure he did not drop to the ground before the tackle and then lifted his arm again before the tackle came in? I am going to look at this again later on Sky, but you could of course be correct.'"
Having seen it again once, at full speed, on the highlights it looked to me like he wasn't held when he hit the deck and was well within his rights to promote the ball.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Having seen it again once, at full speed, on the highlights it looked to me like he wasn't held when he hit the deck and was well within his rights to promote the ball.'"
That is what it looked like to me on the day as well. Will watch later.
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| Here's my twopennorth for what it's worth.
Surely with todays technology a 'smart' chip could be inserted into every ball that emits a gps signal and can be tracked to determine exactly if a ball is passed forward or not.
It's the future y'know. 
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| This would only work if the smart chip was smart enough to understand Stevo's momentum rule.
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| Quote Norman Stanley Fletcher="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Here's my twopennorth for what it's worth.
Surely with todays technology a 'smart' chip could be inserted into every ball that emits a gps signal and can be tracked to determine exactly if a ball is passed forward or not.
It's the future y'know.
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IIRC this has already been suggested and possibly even trialled. The problem arises though as a pass is deemed to be forward when it travels in a forward direction in relation to the player, not in relation to the ground. This would mean every player being having a chip on them.
Also, how do you allow for wind for instance? A ball may be passed backwards and end up moving forwards due to the wind. This would not be a forward pass as it was originally thrown in a backwards direction but would it get picked up by the technology?
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| Quote mirfieldrhino="mirfieldrhino"IIRC this has already been suggested and possibly even trialled. =#FF0000The problem arises though as a pass is deemed to be forward when it travels in a forward direction in relation to the player, not in relation to the ground. This would mean every player being having a chip on them.
Also, how do you allow for wind for instance? A ball may be passed backwards and end up moving forwards due to the wind. This would not be a forward pass as it was originally thrown in a backwards direction but would it get picked up by the technology?'"
What he just said.
It may take another twenty years for the message to get through to certain individuals though. If the game ever changes the forward pass law to just being in relation to the ground (release point to receive point) then we better find a quicker restart option than the scrum.
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| Quote LS16_Rhino="LS16_Rhino"From what I saw Senior's first try was held up and Hall’s was double movement but hey, swings and roundabouts.'"
After seeing both tries again Hall wasn’t tackled as I’d originally thought and therefore couldn’t have been double movement.
I still maintain that Senior was held up for his first try though. Seen it a couple of times now and can’t stop where he grounds the ball.
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| Quote LS16_Rhino="LS16_Rhino"I still maintain that Senior was held up for his first try though. Seen it a couple of times now and can’t stop where he grounds the ball.'"
You don't think he grounded it when he first went over?
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"You don't think he grounded it when he first went over?'"
Not that I could see mate.
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| they are not linesmen they are touch judges!!
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| Quote airlie73="airlie73"they are not linesmen they are touch judges!!'"
It doesn’t matter what you call them they’re still ineffective.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"You don't think he grounded it when he first went over?'"
Watched it back now and it does look like he just got the ball down when he first went over and was then rolled on his back. However, only have one camera angle, so you can't tell definitely but the in-goal touchie stood his ground and Bentham looked both at a him and the touch judge and gave the try. So the officials thought so and it looked like the in-goal touch judge was in a good position.
As for Hall, yeh, not tackled when he hit the deck and right to promote the ball, nothing up with that score at all.
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