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| Saints confirm Shenton signing on 3 year deal.
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| Quote pyeman="pyeman"Heard last night that gaz ellis reckons shenny has signed for wests.'"
I don't think you did considering it was Ellis telling people Shenton had signed for Saints months back 
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| Despite the fact we were expecting this, it still makes it no easier to accept...absolutely gutted but good luck Shenny.
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| Quote boothdaz="boothdaz"If Arundel is a real prospect I would like to have seen him offered a longer contract than 2 years.'"
Just because he didn't sign for longer doesn't mean he wasn't offered a longer deal.
It's a two-way street, clubs can't force players to sign deals and with the amount of uncertainty around at the moment, why would Joe Arundel commit to more than 2 years?
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| Didnt read the forum before starting my thread
Mods feel free to merge/lock the Shenny thread
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| Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"I don't think you did considering it was Ellis telling people Shenton had signed for Saints months back
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No thats definatly what i heard if it was right or not was another matter.
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| So what can saints expect from shenton?
Is he fast?
Can he beat a man?
Is he a wingers centre?
I know he's good in defence, I hope he turns out to be top class, this country needs a top class centre for the world cup.
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| He's quick on a broken field and he can catch. Don't expect him to be a powerful centre breaking through the line ala Senior.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"So what can saints expect from shenton?
Is he fast?
Can he beat a man?
Is he a wingers centre?
I know he's good in defence, I hope he turns out to be top class, this country needs a top class centre for the world cup.'"
Yes
He can but lacks the power to go through his marker so has to round him which is much harder with the limited space available these days
Not particularly IMO, certainly no Lyon/Gidley and Atkins is better in this department.
One other thing, he literally can't kick....looks as though he'll fall over every time he tries.
As you know he is great defensively, one of the best I've ever seen, not just for his tackling but his reading of the opposition's attacking plays.
Give him time to settle because he hasn't always seemed to be the most confident of players but in the unlikely event you're not satisfied with your purchase we'll gladly accept return.
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| Quote smoking monkey="smoking monkey"Yes
He can but lacks the power to go through his marker so has to round him which is much harder with the limited space available these days
Not particularly IMO, certainly no Lyon/Gidley and Atkins is better in this department.
One other thing, he literally can't kick....looks as though he'll fall over every time he tries.
As you know he is great defensively, one of the best I've ever seen, not just for his tackling but his reading of the opposition's attacking plays.
Give him time to settle because he hasn't always seemed to be the most confident of players but in the unlikely event you're not satisfied with your purchase we'll gladly accept return.'"
=#0080FFI could be on my own here, but I wouldn't accept him back. He's decided he's too good to remain at Cas now, so he needs to go and prove that he is good enough elsewhere.
I wish the lad well, but he's not welcome back if he fails in my opinion.
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| Quote Legionited="Legionited"=#0080FFI could be on my own here, but I wouldn't accept him back. He's decided he's too good to remain at Cas now, so he needs to go and prove that he is good enough elsewhere.
I wish the lad well, but he's not welcome back if he fails in my opinion.'"
All I know for sure is that he has decided Saints are the better option for him at this time and that does not have to mean that he thinks he's too good for Cas. Surely when it comes to recruitment the key issue is whether a player will add value rather than where his previous career path has taken him to/from.
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| I believe that joining Saints will improve Shenny's power, he will become a line breaker.
The problem we have at Cas is not only our fitness but the general size and conditioning of players. If you look at teams like Saints, Wigan, Leeds and even Warrington and Huddersfield all their players have bulk and power as well as fitness and stamina. The likes of Cas, Wakefield and Salford don't have this, and I believe that this is the major gap between the top half and bottom half of the table
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